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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "JD is not one of the best players we've had, but he was certainly the player we needed at that time.'"
This. I liked him because unlike many others -imports or otherwise - he undoubtedly had a genuine feeling for the club.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "JD is not one of the best players we've had, but he was certainly the player we needed at that time.'"
Perfect assesment.
In his favour he was also a great bloke to talk to and still has passion for Wakefield Trinity.
Legend, no but a proper Trinity bloke, maybe yes.
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| Is he a legend in the same way Neil Fox or Derek Turner are legends? Absolutely not.
Is a he a 'legend' in the same way Johnny Thompson is.........for me yes.
He's not a legend of rugby league, or even Super League, but he is an integral part of the epic story of Wakefield Trinity.
When we needed a leader, he was it. And that for me doesn't make him a legend, it makes him a key part of the legendary story.
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| Quote: PopTart "Is he a legend in the same way Neil Fox or Derek Turner are legends? Absolutely not.
Is a he a 'legend' in the same way Johnny Thompson is.........for me yes.
He's not a legend of rugby league, or even Super League, but he is an integral part of the epic story of Wakefield Trinity.
When we needed a leader, he was it. And that for me doesn't make him a legend, it makes him a key part of the legendary story.'"
Still wouldn't go as far as JT, come on 6 years versus 30+ - seriously
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| Quote: vastman "Still wouldn't go as far as JT, come on 6 years versus 30+ - seriously
Nigel Bell maybe tops JD in the post 60's period. But I think JD tops JT
JT's status is really only based on longevity of service. This is fair enough.
JD was, albeit for a short period, a top Super League player wearing a Wakefield shirt alongside probably the best side we've had in the last 20 years.
Comparable things to remember:-
JD: Late try away at Hull 2004 playoff. Never say die try at home to Cas in £1k game. Control of Paul Newlove away v Cas 2004, Playing with major neck injury.
JT: Been at club ages. Comes from Eastmoor. Got sent off v Aussies. Likes it hard quote.
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| Quote: vastman "Who the hells knocking him? Or do we all have to share your and Cosmicat adoration.
I know you didn't mean it quite like that but steady on or perhaps you also want to call me a pr idk for not loving JD? - also aren't you the one who used to say JD's head went down to easy for a Captain?
Any way why can't you not like a player as much as others do without being bagged - so long as you're respectful what's the problem?
I just don't see the need to knock those who do admire him. Yes, his head did go down at times as he felt it like we did, but I would choose him as captain anytime.
I don't call folk that on here for having a different opinion!
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| Quote: vastman "Still wouldn't go as far as JT, come on 6 years versus 30+ - seriously
That's exactly my point. You are judging Johnny on other things besides rugby ability yet you call out those that do the same about JD
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| Quote: PopTart "That's exactly my point. You are judging Johnny on other things besides rugby ability yet you call out those that do the same about JD'"
You're forgetting that he's the only one who's allowed to do that.
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| Quote: PopTart "That's exactly my point. You are judging Johnny on other things besides rugby ability yet you call out those that do the same about JD'"
No I'm giving some perspective. And seeing as you and a few others can't be bothered to read the thread, all I ever asked was 'why' people think he's a legend - have not given my own opinion.
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| Maybe we read too much into the why?
.....but the "let's not kid ourselves over his importance" implies you think he is less important than those posting.
It doesn't matter to me. I'm just answering your question of why people think you gave an opinion.
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| Quote: vastman " all I ever asked was 'why' people think he's a legend - have not given my own opinion.'"
Many people have already covered why JD is a trinity great
But one of my personal reasons for regarding him so highly is simply that he stayed with us when he could have moved on to a bigger club when he was at his playing height
The offers were there but he remained loyal to us, that is the rarest commodity for wakefield trinity
He is one of a very small number of wakey players that hasn't just left the moment he had a better offer
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| Quote: musson "Many people have already covered why JD is a trinity great
But one of my personal reasons for regarding him so highly is simply that he stayed with us when he could have moved on to a bigger club when he was at his playing height
The offers were there but he remained loyal to us, that is the rarest commodity for wakefield trinity
He is one of a very small number of wakey players that hasn't just left the moment he had a better offer'"
To add to that, he stayed because "We" needed him, not because "He" needed us.
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| Quote: musson "Many people have already covered why JD is a trinity great
But one of my personal reasons for regarding him so highly is simply that he stayed with us when he could have moved on to a bigger club when he was at his playing height
The offers were there but he remained loyal to us, that is the rarest commodity for wakefield trinity
He is one of a very small number of wakey players that hasn't just left the moment he had a better offer'"
No - why YOU think he is a great, not everybody does - I will now state I don't and a number of others don't but hey who are we.
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| 'Greatness' and 'legend' and words of that ilk are over-used these days; largely because the young seem intent on distilling the English language down to words of one syllable - they don't even actually say 'legend' any more - just 'lej.' It's totes ridic!
That aside - I guess it's all relative, and it's certainly subjective when applied to a sportsman; it's indisputable however that JD was an honest, hardworking lad who gave of his best in service to our club - he certainly wasn't the best player in the team, but he was probably the best team player. And he did seem to have genuine affection for the club and the City, which he has maintained an interest in ever since. Can't ask for much more really, and for all of that, he deserves respect and admiration - which I think is pretty universal?
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| Quote: vastman "No - why YOU think he is a great, not everybody does - I will now state I don't and a number of others don't but hey who are we.'"
I refer you back to my original post on why I think he is a legend
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