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Quote: desmond decker "seriously why do u feel the need to single a player out whose probably got more ability in his little finger than you ever will and make a judgement after seeing him twice?? you really are a joke of a fan'"


He just does, not happy without a whipping boy.

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Quote: vastman "He just does, not happy without a whipping boy.'"


In all fairness I think Briscoe has been brought in too early in his career and he is not yet ready for SL rugby.
The fact that Agar has had to bring Riley in tends to suggest Agar possibly now feels the same.

I have said it before, it was suggested we had the pick of Leeds reserves as loan players. I can't understand
why Briscoe was chosen over Duckworth who would have been a better prospect for our situation.

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Quote: jack in the box "In all fairness I think Briscoe has been brought in too early in his career and he is not yet ready for SL rugby.
The fact that Agar has had to bring Riley in tends to suggest Agar possibly now feels the same.

I have said it before, it was suggested we had the pick of Leeds reserves as loan players. I can't understand
why Briscoe was chosen over Duckworth who would have been a better prospect for our situation.'"

For all we know Leeds could of gave us a list of players they are happy to loan to us and Duckworth wasn't one of them.

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Quote: newgroundb4cas "I agree we do have good strength this year. Credit to Agar and Mr Carter. Briscoe is way short of standard though after witnessing the Fev friendly and the Wigan game. He looks a liability.'"


For me he was one off the only players that showed interest in the Fev freindly - Thought his attack looked promising, And his defence looked solid.

Your opinion of him been a "Liability" Comes from watching a freindly and 1 league game in a unsettled squad that had played a couple of games together.

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Quote: The Dreadnought "For all we know Leeds could of gave us a list of players they are happy to loan to us and Duckworth wasn't one of them.'"


The fact that he is loan at London suggests he probably was available

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Quote: jack in the box "The fact that he is loan at London suggests he probably was available'"

London could of had a deal before we enquired?

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Quote: jack in the box "In all fairness I think Briscoe has been brought in too early in his career and he is not yet ready for SL rugby.
The fact that Agar has had to bring Riley in tends to suggest Agar possibly now feels the same.

I have said it before, it was suggested we had the pick of Leeds reserves as loan players. I can't understand
why Briscoe was chosen over Duckworth who would have been a better prospect for our situation.'"


That wasn't the point of my reply, the question was more why single out one player with an overwhelmingly damming comment - no need for it with young players ?(and i've done it myself and regretted it in the past) but NGB4C has form, why be fair - he isn't.

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Quote: vastman "That wasn't the point of my reply, the question was more why single out one player with an overwhelmingly damming comment - no need for it with young players ?(and i've done it myself and regretted it in the past) but NGB4C has form.'"


Just quoted your reply for ease of comment icon_wink.gif

You're right about NGB4C he certainly knows how to bag a player. Then again when he likes
one he certainly lets us know. Way Frankie is going over at Cas I'm surprised he's not banging
on about what a massive mistake the club have made icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: jack in the box "Just quoted your reply for ease of comment eusa_shhh.gif He forgot about his Ex. Don't remind him.

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Quote: jack in the box "Just quoted your reply for ease of comment
I can't wait till easter if big Frankie scores icon_lol.gif

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Quote: vastman "Think your wrong IMO - many Leeds youngsters have not made the grade - nor do good young players always make the step up as shown by our all conquering Academy team of a few years back. I personally don't blame just the coaching staff for that. People moan about Wildie and Wallshaw not getting a fair crack of the whip but they have in fact played far more SL games than some of Leeds more fancied youngsters.

However that's not the point.

The point is not that the 2nd string is a great team - its to point out that even at the bare bones we could compete against most other SL teams who are also down to the bare bones - including Leeds - all things are relative.

This means as far as my RL logic takes me that during the AVERAGE ups and downs of a season we now hopefully have enough quality to plug the gaps as and when they appear - which may be the difference between safety or relegation to 8th or 9th spot.

The last time we had a similar amount of cover was 2008/2009 when we manage a CCup semi and a top 8.'"


Who's come through the Leeds academy? You've got Minns, Duckworth, Briscoe, Sutcliffe all playing their trade at other super league clubs. You've got Watkins, Hardaker and Ben Jones-Bishop who are arguably world class. Who have we produced in the last 5 seasons anywhere near being akin to that? I can't think of any. Our back-up is alright but it's not because of the youngsters we produce. The fact we have young players that have played more Super League games, in my opinion, shows how short we have been previously because they wouldn't get many gigs anywhere else in the league.

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I feel the need because you posted about 2 teams and he wouldn't be in that!

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Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "Who's come through the Leeds academy? You've got Minns, Duckworth, Briscoe, Sutcliffe all playing their trade at other super league clubs. You've got Watkins, Hardaker and Ben Jones-Bishop who are arguably world class. Who have we produced in the last 5 seasons anywhere near being akin to that? I can't think of any. Our back-up is alright but it's not because of the youngsters we produce. The fact we have young players that have played more Super League games, in my opinion, shows how short we have been previously because they wouldn't get many gigs anywhere else in the league.'"

Hardaker is a Fev product as every body seems to forget.

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Quote: Adam_Harrison9 "Who's come through the Leeds academy? You've got Minns, Duckworth, Briscoe, Sutcliffe all playing their trade at other super league clubs. You've got Watkins, Hardaker and Ben Jones-Bishop who are arguably world class. Who have we produced in the last 5 seasons anywhere near being akin to that? I can't think of any. Our back-up is alright but it's not because of the youngsters we produce. The fact we have young players that have played more Super League games, in my opinion, shows how short we have been previously because they wouldn't get many gigs anywhere else in the league.'"


OK, fine if it makes you happy but does it really matter in regard to the basic point icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: vastman "OK, fine if it makes you happy but does it really matter in regard to the basic point
I was only taking issue with the point about Leeds. The overall sentiment, I agreed with icon_cheers.gif

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