I have never given anyone a timescale - for the very reasons you state, but clearly it was in the clubs interest at times to be optimistic about the timescales involved.

The built and occupied bit is written into the 106 agreement, it was always thus, but there were discussions about accelerating that due to SL licence requirements. These not being so now takes away some of the pressure that we can apply!

We are pushing like mad right now and making a right nuisance of ourselves ('exploding' into offices etc) and we are trying to pick up on the movement happening at NM to make sure we make the most of it on behalf of the City and the Club, but nothing much, other than a few meetings, will change for a while yet - sorry!

Thanks IA and TRB,

TRB, I wasn't alluding to the timelines given out as having come from you, they have however been part of the rhetoric released by the club and YC at various points in the campaign.

IA, you refer to the SL standards not now putting pressure on the construction timescales which I agree and also included in my post.
There are now strong and persistent rumours that the landlord who owns Belle Vue is now seeking to have the lease changed so that the provision of another suitable place to play is no longer included and therefore allows them not to renew our lease and give us notice to quit before a new stadium is built.

That to me suggests an even more serious time sensitive deadline than the SL Franchise pressure we were under before.
That being the case, we need to get a move on!
Can you confirm or deny the actions of the landlord and if true will you offer an informed opinion on how that could present a danger to the club and it's status.

We do understand that there are moves by the landlord. There is still some political pressure to help the club in this and we are working to maintain that. There is no need to panic at all, but there is a need to get some momentum going once again and we are driving this hard!

I appreciate you weren't aiming that at me, and I explained the reasoning behind the various 'target' deadlines given along the way.

What if YC build 59,000 m2 and tarmac the rest.

Regarding capacity/cost I remember reading somewhere that each seat has a cost when building so is a seated stand more expensive to build than a terrace stand? I know the plans we have seen are not set in stone but they show both ends terrace both sides seated. Would we gain more capacity with one side terrace stand (better in my opinion) and 1 end seated like Warrington . It would be good to have at least a 10k capacity so need to get as much capacity for our money

Great point well made and that is one of the things we are going to be exploring with the interested parties. You are correct BTW, standing is cheaper than seating from a capacity per area of stand perspective.

don't think its a stupid question at all,

I've come across some very unscrupulous business men that say one thing and come just short of what was offered on a purpose knowing that they hold the ace card, its business to them where its a passion to us and means a lot more

YC will not only build out 59,000 sq m and tarmac the rest. The up front investment in infrastructure to serve 59,000 sq m would mean that they will hardy cover their costs, let alone make some serious profit. Then they have the rest of the site to develop out.

Don't be concerned, its in YC's interest to develop the whole site so they will not stop at 59,000 sq m.

Thanks

I have no doubts they have every intention of maximising the area its just the timings that is my concern

Slowly slowly catch the monkey WILL NOT DO with our current situation.

Yes the pressure may have died off from the RFL with a view to stadiums being a must, but if anything our own predicament has become more pressured. We should be pushing this at every opportunity.

We need progress, not a meeting next month, tangible progress. The situation at BV is untenable & is become yet another factor which is driving even the hardiest of fan away.

There is supposed to be a clear way of financing the base of the stadium complex, build that if nothing else & start selling investment once there is something tangible to see.

It's posts like this that made me give up.

Yes mate it's that easy, tell you what I'll give you York Courts number and you can sort them oot - ditto the Council/Banks/Investors/Sir Rodney Walker etc etc…...

I have to agree with vasty on this one; you've clearly never worked in business! I can tell you with absolute certainty that YC and the various banks involved won't give two hoots how tenable or otherwise BV is, or what a few fans of a small time RL club think.

We are talking about *vast* sums of money here and huge risks for the individuals and companies involved; if it happens at all, it will happen based on the finances being 100% secured in advance and cast iron contracts and guarantees being in place to protect all parties.

There is absolutely no way on god's green earth that YC, or any other developer, would complete earthworks and pour millions of tonnes of concrete into the ground, just to get the attention of potential investors.

I'm all for enthusiasm, but it's important to be realistic.