To be fair - and I guess from your tone that fairness is not inyour nature...neither Bell nor Conway can be described as legends of the club... indeed, there were long periods where billy Conway struggled to make the first team selection in a time where the team were far less capable than they are now. And solid player that he was, Nigel never remotely looked like playing representative football.

Jason too is not a legend, but he has been a fine servant and ambassador for our club, and this is a time to hold up the hand and acknowledge that service and say... "thanks Mate!'

true legends of this club are people like Neil Fox, David Topliss, Derek Turner, Billy Stott, Jonty Parkin.... men who reached the pinacle of the sport whilst representing the mighty trin.

so get your head out of your backside, stand up and say thanks Jason, for your hard work, toil, entertainment... and for being a bloody good representative of this club...


good luck for the future mate...

I disagree there Unerground.
Although I agree with all the legends of the club you name partly because of the level they reached in the sport and partly for what they mean to the club.

In JDs case and in my opinion Belly's case they did not reach the same level in terms of playing at international level but for what they menat to the club at the time they played and the effort they put in, they are legends.......at least fan favourites.

And you could do that at the last home game without paying another £20 for another night out. Sorry, these things just aren't for me. That, and testimonials should only be granted to those who have spent 10 years at one club, otherwise everyone should get one for playing for 10 years!

that wasnt the point of my post read it again!

and poptart...

to me there is a world of difference between a legend and a fans fave... Belly was a good player (although I never really liked the bloke!) JD is a good player... and both have been excellent servants to the club... but the word "legend" should be reserved for the truly great amongst us.

Am sure that should read PINT for the lady and a wine for you Snowie.

Point made. I don't disagree with what you say in terms of definition of legend...often over used, but in my opinion there nerds to be recognition of the efforts of the likes of JD. If he isn't a legend he is still above being just a great servant of the club.

no wine for me it goes to my head





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Don't these lads efforts get recognised though by the salary they're paid? For me that's enough - there's a bit too much sentimentality in all this farewell to a legend nonsense. Testimonials certainly have a place in the game, but they should be for exceptional achievements.

I suppose it depends how you choose to look at that issue...

Yes the players are reasonably well paid... when compared to nurses, policemen, firemen ect... however their potential life time earning from their chosen profession is far, far less... and the differential for the time they have an rl career (some 10 or 12 years) does not set them up for the rest of their lives as would a soccer player in the premiership.

We ask these young men to put their bodies on the line every week for our entertainment... then we (the fans ) cast them on to the scrap heap when they are worn out or too old... for me this is a way that we can show our appreciation of those that do it with a degree of loyalty to one or two clubs.


however noone is reaching into your pocket and forcing the hard eaned penny from your grasp... testemonials are voluntary and should stay that way!

look at it as a leaving collection for a valued work colleague and friend.

Some do, at the higher end of the scale at least.

Big fan of JD and what he's brought to our club but i would never call him a "Legend" that words used to often these days.

I dont think any of them get paid anywhere near enough.

Compare them to other sports players.

Remember the dedicate their whole life to it up to the age of 35-40 and when they finish many will not get another job paying anywhere near their previous job (where they were top of their tree) and will have to re-train again.

These people are professional sports people, putting their body on the line and being viewed on sky sports. Im not sure the money should be anywhere near football but do think they should be able finish their sporting life with a comfortable amount of money.

This is an argument for testimonials I can never understand. Not many people stay in their chosen profession for their entire lives either through choice or by circumstance. My view is that they should feel themselves lucky to have been paid well to play sport for a significant portion of their working lives. Why can't they go and do 20/30 years in a factory job like others have to do or retrain for another job? I believe that testimonials have long since had their day unless the money is going to charity.