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Quote: Big lads mate "Like I said on a previous page Vasty, I was there 2 weeks ago and you are spot on, it’s absolutely dreadful and god knows who does the grading, probably Stevie Wonder. I know we have been way behind in the years gone by but we have done something about it, and don’t get me started on the stand we had to remove after the Bradford disaster which still grates me to this day and that thing that they call a stand is still being used'"


Not only due to the Bradford disaster, BLM. The old main stand was absolutely riddled with wet rot. I was working for WMDC at the time and had some involvement in the survey of the structure

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Quote: PopTart "If they used the phrase "Grade A Stadium" they don't understand what they are doing.

Maybe they could get full marks on the stadium section but that doesn't give them a Grade A.

They could possibly get the 1.5 points for facilities but I can't see how they will do the sponsors and directors area.
The handbook makes a point of saying the seats have to be permanent so we'll see what they think of their new ones.

They don't have LEDs and do they have a permanent big screen I can't remember.

And its fairly impossible to get full marks on utilisation.

So I'd say they are only talking about facilities score of 1.5.'"


I was reading the handbook today and the directors area/sponsored seats. Do we have this in the new stand? I’ve not been in the central part. Are the hospitality and the sponsors seats one and the same?

I’d like to think we can get the full 1.5 points on that. Obviously that means physical barrier on the hospitality.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "They have revalued the ground from just over 2m to just over 8m in the last twelve months.'"

Looking at our accounts, from what I can make out, our tangible assets, which is just surely the ground, land and Stadia and we've had ours revalued, obviously because of the upgrade and it's taken us from 6.3million to 14.6 million.

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Quote: Trojan Horse "I was reading the handbook today and the directors area/sponsored seats. Do we have this in the new stand? I’ve not been in the central part. Are the hospitality and the sponsors seats one and the same?

I’d like to think we can get the full 1.5 points on that. Obviously that means physical barrier on the hospitality.'"

The blue seats in the middle are more padded.the top row of blue seating all the way across where the directors of the clubs would sit are even more deluxe with extra comfort!

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "They have revalued the ground from just over 2m to just over 8m in the last twelve months.'"


I would hope that for declaring to IMG they would need a professional evaluation on the property which the club owns, otherwise it's pretty pointless if clubs can just make things up.

On LED advertising boards, Cas are just about to put them in, Cas seem to think they are going to get a grade A licence which I have no idea how they could get close to the 15 required.

I'm still wondering why nobody in Leigh seems to be worried, being that they scored below us last time even without the new stand / facilities and other improvements (and below Cas apparently with there mistake that cost them 0.5). They have on the face of it made no improvements and will be down 0.25 points with the Challenge cup win not factored in.

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Leigh will be fine. Toulouse won't be in the 12. Teams will be as the 2023 season.

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Quote: Belle Vue "The blue seats in the middle are more padded.the top row of blue seating all the way across where the directors of the clubs would sit are even more deluxe with extra comfort!'"


That’s really good to know thanks. There is mention of direct access to directors area not through public area. That would be the last question? Any idea? That would if met guarantee full 1.5 points

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Quote: Trojan Horse "That’s really good to know thanks. There is mention of direct access to directors area not through public area. That would be the last question? Any idea? That would if met guarantee full 1.5 points[/directors would be able to walk out from the glass doors area from hospitality and strait into their seats on the top row without having to get people to stand up.so they could sit down easily..

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Quote: Belle Vue "

That’s great. So with all we’ve discussed I’m assuming that last year we got 0.5 and Ellis (once some physical barriers are up) would be expecting 1.5?

An increase in 1point nothing to sniff at plus the LEDs too. A 1.25 increase and potentially more from other areas.

Seems like we will be around the 14 mark somewhere.

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Quote: Trojan Horse "
To be honest.. pop tart is the guru to ask for a more accurate figure..
If all goes to plan I think we’ll be nearer to 14.5 The only change I see will be London for ourselves .

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In a recent interview I'm sure ME said he was expecting a high 14 icon_razz.gifRAY:

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Its just my opinion but I think it is going to be very close IMG points wise between us, Cas, Salford, Leigh, Tolouse and I would even throw Huddersfield in there as well.

Ourselves and Cas have improved by a couple of points since last time but I dont see how Leigh, Salford and Huddersfield will get many more points than they already had. This means ourselves and Cas will be in their ballpark.

The unkown for me is Tolouse, I think they will score higher than people think and could be a threat.

We also have to remember that this is Rugby League so I would never rule out something bizzare happening or goalposts being moved last minute.

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Quote: altofts wildcat "Its just my opinion but I think it is going to be very close IMG points wise between us, Cas, Salford, Leigh, Tolouse and I would even throw Huddersfield in there as well.

Ourselves and Cas have improved by a couple of points since last time but I dont see how Leigh, Salford and Huddersfield will get many more points than they already had. This means ourselves and Cas will be in their ballpark.

The unkown for me is Tolouse, I think they will score higher than people think and could be a threat.

We also have to remember that this is Rugby League so I would never rule out something bizzare happening or goalposts being moved last minute.'"


I think Leigh will be OK due to the financial structure they have implemented

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Quote: REDWHITEANDBLUE "I think Leigh will be OK due to the financial structure they have implemented'"

They also have two good SL seasons in the bank and one excellent championship campaign rather than. Beaumont has converted his loans to revenue so they will be in the 14-15 range. I don't see where Toulouse score significantly more than last year.

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Quote: altofts wildcat "Its just my opinion but I think it is going to be very close IMG points wise between us, Cas, Salford, Leigh, Tolouse and I would even throw Huddersfield in there as well.

Ourselves and Cas have improved by a couple of points since last time but I dont see how Leigh, Salford and Huddersfield will get many more points than they already had. This means ourselves and Cas will be in their ballpark.

The unkown for me is Tolouse, I think they will score higher than people think and could be a threat.

We also have to remember that this is Rugby League so I would never rule out something bizzare happening or goalposts being moved last minute.'"



Just wondering why you think Toulouse would score higher?

Their stadia hasn’t improved.

Their finishing position I think will decrease another year out of SL?

Their attendances were over 3k but they’re now averaging low 2k last 2 seasons so may have dropped below 3k. They certainly will next season if not this.

Can’t see where they would raise the ceiling. Think they did well to get the score they did but I don’t feel it will be easy for them to raise.

I think Leigh should be okay.

I honestly just think we will replace London and Toulouse will be 13th.

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