Thanks for that fella. Wish more Castleford supporters were more sensible about all of this as you seem to be. The gloating and lack of class shown by some has been really bad.

Thank you Richard. I do think the gloating is out of order from some people and that is a shame that this happens. There are plenty of us who wish Wakefield well with getting permission for your new stadium and hopefully the Secretary of State will do the right thing by Wakefield Trinity and give you the go-ahead.

Lets hope the RFL let you continue in SL with your plan B but not at the expense of ourselves obviously, personally i think the Wrexham lot deserve to lose their place,

Finally i was curious what SWAG stands for.......


Supporters Without A Ground perhaps???

sorry....couldnt resist

which stadium in Castleford is this?

As things stand at the moment Castleford are fractionally better off than Wakefield Trinity are, indeed it could be argued that due to the funding crisis at Castleford they may be further away from a stadium than Wakefield are.

I hope that that isn't the case and that Castleford can solve their funding problems, get their new stadium and retain their super league place but to suggest that Wakefield Trinity's board of directors have done their club and the fans an injustice by not going Glasshoughton is ill informed and myopic.

And arent you so happy about that. Stop with the gloating stuff because if GH does not come off you could look silly. Just think about if your club was in trouble and how you would feel.

what's that got to do with it?

Castleford have outline planning permission, the £2 million contribution underwritten by Wakefield Council, an old contract with Ben Bailey homes that isn't worth the paper it's written on. If and when Castleford finally apply for full planning permission Im sure they [iwill[/i be successful in obtaining it but then comes the problems of actually funding the build which Castleford cannot do at this moment in time.

That in my opinion is as big of a hurdle as the public enquiry issues that Wakefield Trinity have and as lI suggested in my previous post it could be viewed as more serious and potentially more difficult to overcome.

The big issue for me is the timing of the franchise decisions and the different way the two clubs are viewed from the outside. It is my honest opinion that the two clubs are of very similar standing in most aspects with one being strong in one area but weaker in another. Unfortunately for Wakefield I don't believe that my opinion is shared by those people who will make the decision about franchises and therefore Castleford will get the nod ahead of Wakefield.

I'm not trying to say that Castleford don't deserve their place in super league, of course they do, and believe me or not if the roles were reversed and Castleford were omitted from the super league I would be as disgusted as I will be if it were Wakefield.

As a rugby league fan I am dismayed by the franchise process and believe it's only a matter of time before we return to traditional promotion and relegation. Unfortunately I believe there will be irreparable damage done in the meantime to a number of clubs and obviously to my own club Wakefield Trinity should they be unlucky enough to lose their place in super league this time round.

Had Steve O'Conner not been around to rescue Widnes they may have been another traditionally successful and historic club to have been destroyed by this ridiculous process.

Some might suggest that I'm only saying this because Wakefield are in jeopardy but that's not the case, I've voiced my disgust and concern about this in the past.

You said Cas were fractionally better off than wake didnt you, i asked the question what do you own ? Am mi not allowed to ask that ?

Go on what do WTW own ?

I personally think that both clubs are in the same position as each other, they have just placed a different spin on it. We kept hearing that one club was in a better position than the other. Depends how you spin it, but both clubs are still in jeopardy. Us, because of yesterday's outcome and Cas still having a funding issue, if they didn't then surely they would be pushing on like Salford are.

You can have full planning permission but unfortunately that does build the stadium, the money to pay for it, that's what gets it built.

As far as who is directly to blame for our current problem, the buck stops with the people running our club. When we were promoted to Super League promises were made to update Belle Vue, this never happened (except for the Butlins building). This outcome is not a problem that has appeared in the last year or so. The club were aware of the need for better facilities. Whether the franchise system had come in or not, improvements / modernisation would still have been required.

Plan B, better tick all the boxes or Wakefield Trinity will no longer exist in it's current form.