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| Lord Rodney of Waterton has a ring to it
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| So does Slimy Snake
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| Have I read bits right, are the club gonna be able to increase revenue streams if a ground is Builth? Or is someone else outside the club going to profit from this?
Looking on the black side.
IF a ground is not built, will there be legal challenge undertaken? If so what has Box, RW, Yorkcourt done illegally?
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| As I said at the beginning - the value of a new facility is the additional revenue streams it can provide to the club; is the new Trust pursuing that in the same club-centric was the original Trust was, or are YC using RW because he is more amenable to a deal that softens the blow to their pocket?
And I'd still like to know if RW has any stake in any of the entities that will benefit from the proposed new arrangement.
Anywho - the ball appears to be in Rodney's court; MC has made his position very clear in the club statement, so it's over to the White Knight.
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| Quote: JINJER "Have I read bits right, are the club gonna be able to increase revenue streams if a ground is Builth? Or is someone else outside the club going to profit from this?
Looking on the black side.
IF a ground is not built, will there be legal challenge undertaken? If so what has Box, RW, Yorkcourt done illegally?'"
Impossible to say without knowing the details of the deal on offer! I will say that we currently pay a market rent on BV plus all the very considerable maintenance costs. With a new stadium these wouldn't be as high so even paying a market rent there would be a saving there you would have thought. Plus the RFL are now going to be charging us if our ground doesn't meet standards so BV is about to get even more expensive. Again not the case with a new ground. So from that point of view it would likely be more profitable on the assumption that the rent price isn't ridiculous. The additional revenue streams are the ones that will be the sticking point. I guess we want it all day every day whilst the new trust probably wants a management company in place to run that side of things and take a cut of the pie to effectively pay for the build over time. But all guesswork right now.
As for the second part of your post from the outside they've done nothing illegal other than possibly not include Newcold in the trigger point. But even if they had that point would not have been reached yet. Now whether there is anything else kicking around not in the public domain we don't know but you would have thought if so then there'd be a stadium at Newmarket by now!
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| Quote: Sacred Cow "Impossible to say without knowing the details of the deal on offer! I will say that we currently pay a market rent on BV plus all the very considerable maintenance costs. With a new stadium these wouldn't be as high so even paying a market rent there would be a saving there you would have thought. Plus the RFL are now going to be charging us if our ground doesn't meet standards so BV is about to get even more expensive. Again not the case with a new ground. So from that point of view it would likely be more profitable on the assumption that the rent price isn't ridiculous. The additional revenue streams are the ones that will be the sticking point. I guess we want it all day every day whilst the new trust probably wants a management company in place to run that side of things and take a cut of the pie to effectively pay for the build over time. But all guesswork right now.
As for the second part of your post from the outside they've done nothing illegal other than possibly not include Newcold in the trigger point. But even if they had that point would not have been reached yet. Now whether there is anything else kicking around not in the public domain we don't know but you would have thought if so then there'd be a stadium at Newmarket by now!'"
I only ask the latter question as I've read a YEP, or Wakey express interview with CB saying they'd take their argument to a judicial review, I can't for the life of me find the article though.
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| Quote: JINJER "I only ask the latter question as I've read a YEP, or Wakey express interview with CB saying they'd take their argument to a judicial review, I can't for the life of me find the article though.'"
FIL's post at top of page 21
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| Quote: JINJER "I only ask the latter question as I've read a YEP, or Wakey express interview with CB saying they'd take their argument to a judicial review, I can't for the life of me find the article though.'"
I thought it was just about Newcold, could be wrong though. I think if that was the case i personally feel it would be pointless though as i think the time has come to accept that Newmarket just isn't going to get built in time under the present agreement. That trigger point will never be passed. We need to find a halfway house that works for both sides otherwise we are screwed and they know it. But if they want to make money out of this stadium they need us to be a competitive superleague side so it is in their interest not to nail us to the ground as well. Just get around the table and make the damn thing happen.
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| I wonder how much the extra streams of income, such as food and drink sold on match day are. The last owners of the club paid for other company's provide the services, but it was found out not to be in the clubs best interest. So I can see why they would want to retain these income streams
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| Quote: djcool "I wonder how much the extra streams of income, such as food and drink sold on match day are. The last owners of the club paid for other company's provide the services, but it was found out not to be in the clubs best interest. So I can see why they would want to retain these income streams'"
Taking a simple exam, at Warrington they sell a can of John Smiths, that probably wholesales at 50p, for £4, and pour it into a plastic glass. Even with overheads, maybe looking at a quid a glass. I bet you can sell a thousand a game. Not everyone drinks John Smiths, of course, but plenty of people drink more than one. That's £40,000 profit a season just on John Smiths, which is probably a salary for a young player showing promise.
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| Yes, I would have said about the same their Slugger.
Add in though too food and hot drinks, you could be looking at more.
In one of Hull KRs bars, they have slot machines too
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| Quote: DAVE@CAS1990 "Wowzer. This statement from Mr Carter this evening has just linked all the pieces together for me. And I must say, what a devious and clever little game the other 3 parties (SRW, PB & YC) have played. Outrageous, but clearly used their years of experience in these matters to well and truly back WT into a corner.
SRW stepping down from the Trust all of a sudden, PB becoming empathetic and finding a new desire all of a sudden, the secret un-minuted meetings..... It all makes perfect sense to me now.
Forgive my pessimistic approach, but I see it in very basic terms
Extremely well put Dave. Good that others can see what has been going on over the last seven years.
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| I Wonder if we could get other supporter Clubs from other clubs to join us in any future action?
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| Quote: Eastern Wildcat "
In one of Hull KRs bars, they have slot machines too'"
We used to have one and apparently didn't we pay a player once from it!
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