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Quote: The Avenger "Hard to believe that a lift wasn’t already in the original build!
Dewsbury built their stand 30 odd years ago and that had a lift for disability purposes even back then.
With all the fixes and rebuilding that’s been done since ME took over it really does look like the stand was a cheap botch job in many aspects.
While I’m at it, why on earth would you buy and fit a big screen that doesn’t meet SL, SKY & Img specification which now needs replacing after just 1 year.'"

Can’t say for sure.. but I think the original one was big enough . But seemed have few glitches with it .
But IMG have changed the dimensions wanting bigger screens…
Either way it needed replacing because of the iffy picture.

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IMG have changed the stadium criteria to benefit those clubs that own their ground. They allow the value of the ground to be part of the financial section of the submission.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "IMG have changed the stadium criteria to benefit those clubs that own their ground. They allow the value of the ground to be part of the financial section of the submission.'"


So I guess that helps us significantly? Especially with the new development adding some serious value.

Would that put the likes of Salford at a disadvantage too?

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Quote: PopTart "It's not the main stand. That has always had a lift in it.'"


I see, misunderstood where it had been added

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Quote: The Avenger "Hard to believe that a lift wasn’t already in the original build!
Dewsbury built their stand 30 odd years ago and that had a lift for disability purposes even back then.
With all the fixes and rebuilding that’s been done since ME took over it really does look like the stand was a cheap botch job in many aspects.
While I’m at it, why on earth would you buy and fit a big screen that doesn’t meet SL, SKY & Img specification which now needs replacing after just 1 year.'"

As for our Big screen, the one we originally bought was the correct size under the grading criteria that was brought out in June 2023, but it's just been updated. Not that it matters that much because we've had problems with ours from day one just about and it appears it was a bit of a cheap one. The new criteria that were updated in March 2024 for the big screen are below -
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Quote: Shifty Cat "As for our Big screen, the one we originally bought was the correct size under the grading criteria that was brought out in June 2023, but it's just been updated. Not that it matters that much because we've had problems with ours from day one just about and it appears it was a bit of a cheap one. The new criteria that were updated in March 2024 for the big screen are below -


Considering we have had 2 x screen size requirements in 12 months I do hope there’s been a guarantee that it won’t be increased further. That would be a kick in the private parts for clubs splashing out a few hundred k.

It’s amazing they can change that? Has there been any clubs purchase based on the old criteria? If so you’d be rightly aggrieved.

Luckily we will have a new one and some flashy LED boards. Looking forward to seeing the LED boards and if we are in SL next season it will open up more sponsorship and advertising revenue being on tv a lot more.

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Quote: The Avenger "I see, misunderstood where it had been added'"


You couldn’t build a stand like ours without a lift, no matter how cheap a bodge you did, you wouldn’t get it passed as it’s against the law.

The reason the boxes got away with it is because they are deemed a temporary structure and didn’t need to meet the full criteria.

Something has now happened with the boxes imo but not sure want. Originally they only had a ten year lifespan before they would requiring removing or rebuilding. I can only assume that through the years they have been continually upgraded to meet criteria. It could be that the addition of a lift allows them to be reclassified as permanent.

This is quite important as it sets the template for what we can build at the south end of the ground if it is now a permanent structure. Considering its height, that would be almost anything.
Pretty shrewd for the cost of a lift but I might be wrong.

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Must say the flats looks so much better with the recent paint job

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Those flats are probably the best business decision and investment and Ted ever made.

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Quote: altofts wildcat "Those flats are probably the best business decision and investment and Ted ever made.'"


It was Pearman not Ted who purchased them, but sadly never paid for them. We were lucky in that we got them by default. I think we paid about 10% of the cost back via the CVA.

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Quote: vastman "It was Pearman not Ted who purchased them, but sadly never paid for them. We were lucky in that we got them by default. I think we paid about 10% of the cost back via the CVA.'"


Weren't they supposed to be going to Silverstone but the removal and transport costs made the deal financially unviable?

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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "Weren't they supposed to be going to Silverstone but the removal and transport costs made the deal financially unviable?'"


Don’t know tbh. I think in the end we paid what the CVA required and then Ted weighed in with a bit extra. Whatever, we didn’t pay what we should have, and as the poster said, it turned out to be one hell of a deal for us.

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Quote: vastman "Don’t know tbh. I think in the end we paid what the CVA required and then Ted weighed in with a bit extra. Whatever, we didn’t pay what we should have, and as the poster said, it turned out to be one hell of a deal for us.'"


It’s been great over the years but I can’t help but think if the flats weren’t there then what could have been done with the money from developer etc.

It is great but in another way it’s a hindrance to futther development.

I can’t help but think it could be an ideal area for a basic stand much like that at York with a half open underside area to walk through.

In a way because it’s there we are forced to further develop the west/north. The space on south stand is considerable.

Hypothetical ofcourse and I am thankful we have a solid structure there that’s unique and has character.

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Even after all these years I still find the flats an eyesore. But I think they'll bring in more income than a stand would based on crowds in recent years. That may change if we can start selling out over the coming seasons.

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They look great on the inside now though. A lot of time, money and effort has gone into sprucing them up and ultimately are still a 365 days a year revenue earner for the club.

It would be nice when we get to a point where we are busting capacity so often that serious consideration needs to be made to replacing them, but until then there is no point going to the expense of the development of a stand that is only going to decrease our utilisation score for the short term. A simple terrace along the bottom would do for now, and I'm sure I read that is in the pipeline.

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