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| Quote: vastman "Sure can.
I think there will be a new league structure in place this year or the year after and the teams know where they will be. So long as we don't finish bottom we will be ok.
Again, I'm only speculating and may be a million miles out, I often am
I think you have seen the same League journalists speculation as I have. Toulouse to stay up and to be joined by Fev and Leigh making a 14 team league. each to play home and away plus the Magic game. Leigh and Fev aren't risking all that money on winning the million pound game but on ensuring they have a competetive squad for super league next year. sounds good in theory to me as theres less chance of a team that comes up going straight back down.
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "I think you may be a bit out with that Vasty, the SL1 X 10 will consist of the teams who finished 1 to 10 at the end of 2023 season. The bottom 2 teams will drop into SL2 to join the top,7 championship teams, the 10th team will be decided by a play of system between the lower 5 championship teams and the top team of league 1.That is my understanding from listening to various RL programs, but this is rugby league and we know how things change unexpectedly, I also believe that the IMG group will have the final say on any changes, but at the moment there is no indication of franchise or licensing it’s the on field performances that decide the teams. It may be that in the future, IMG will want Bigger cities both in the U.K. and Europe, if that did happen at the expense of teams like Trinity, then I would not support the game any longer.'"
But that’s exactly what I said???
2023 is the season that counts.
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| Quote: newgroundb4wakey "I think you have seen the same League journalists speculation as I have. Toulouse to stay up and to be joined by Fev and Leigh making a 14 team league. each to play home and away plus the Magic game. Leigh and Fev aren't risking all that money on winning the million pound game but on ensuring they have a competetive squad for super league next year. sounds good in theory to me as theres less chance of a team that comes up going straight back down.'"
No mate I honestly haven’t seen or heard anything concrete.
Im more following smoke signals.
To me there is simply no panic in the air.
Trinity are concentrating on building a SL standard stadium and running a SL academy. Why would you bother if you were not fairly sure of things. We seem to have been incredibly tight this season even for us.
Ditto you lot. Cas always chuck in some flash signings both pre and mid season. Not much this year.
Finally despite the games new direction not a peep from any SL directors, nothing.
If you were not reasonably happy with what the future holds I don’t think that would be the case.
I haven’t had contact with MC for a while but I’ve had a fair bit with JM and he seems incredibly up beat. Considering they are bothe accountants and thus optimism is contrary to their nature. It’s all very odd
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| Crickey why was Minns left out there on the field?! We had enough cover on the bench to move Batch into the centre.
I don't know where to start with Lineham.
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| Worry is in M W the French team strength is there backs .If Hall out and replace Minns and Croft with 2 forward we are still going to struggle.It was the backs who carried the forwards up to 5 week ago but now it is th e same forwards who are carrying the backs .Worrying times indeed
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| Quote: charlie "Crickey why was Minns left out there on the field?! We had enough cover on the bench to move Batch into the centre.
I don't know where to start with Lineham.'"
#Not sure if Batch got a knock early on as he came off pretty early for a spell on the bench
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| At least as bad as the stats are we still have players committed to the cause which is a huge positive for me as looking at that scoreline you’d presume they all had capitulated but it’s simply not true . What’s very plain to see is that collectively we can’t afford to carry any passengers , when we do we end up with blowout scoreline . Not a simple fix by any means , our big money players are sat on the sidelines and it is killing us and then players not up to the task at hand are thrown into the breach . Bet Willie thinks he’s run over a dozen black cats with the luck he’s getting , heard on the latest heritage podcast that Kay wont be available until the last 2 games , so there is our decent hooker/winger out for the best part of the season. Watching wakefield as lng as I have we could quite easily give Wigan a bloody nose on Sunday , they’ve certainly got it in them , but I feel we now have too much fire power sat out to trouble most teams , hopefully we can muster a win over Toulouse going forwards and just keep them at arms length
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| It was a disgusting performance and a disgusting result, and Miller can stick his pathetic so called apology up where the sun doesn’t shine.
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| Quote: Willzay "It was a disgusting performance and a disgusting result, and Miller can stick his pathetic so called apology up where the sun doesn’t shine.'"
Oh do grow up. I'd love to see you say that to his face, big man.
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| Regarding the stats it’s a bit of a worry if Hall is injured how we will line up in the centres.
Hopefully Hall and Batch line back up in the centres vs Wigan but if that’s not an option then considering Lyne and Tupou are still missing we may need to look at the loan market.
Next year losing Tupou, Croft and Minns (potentially) would leave us very skinny at centre so we really need to be looking at options for 2023 there. Can’t see much in the way of quality available.
Josh Simm probably sticks out as a viable option probably in a similar vein to Hall signing.
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| Quote: Trojan Horse "Regarding the stats it’s a bit of a worry if Hall is injured how we will line up in the centres.
Hopefully Hall and Batch line back up in the centres vs Wigan but if that’s not an option then considering Lyne and Tupou are still missing we may need to look at the loan market.
Next year losing Tupou, Croft and Minns (potentially) would leave us very skinny at centre so we really need to be looking at options for 2023 there. Can’t see much in the way of quality available.
Josh Simm probably sticks out as a viable option probably in a similar vein to Hall signing.'"
Two great young centres coming the through the Academy. I assume we may go NRL for a centre also.
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| Croft was supposed to be a great young coming through the Academy a few years ago .Hope they are a lot better and faster
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| Quote: alegend "Croft was supposed to be a great young Centre coming through the Academy a few years ago .Hope they are a lot better and faster'"
Don't think it's fair to totally write Croft off. I tend to agree with PB that he's more championship than SL but he's way better than Sundays efforts.
He has also come back from a bad injury and was partnered (I think) with easily the worst winger we have had in years.
Lineham, Gaskell and Minns on the other hand have no excuses.
Sadly next Sundays sees us playing possibly one of the most lethal combination in SL, so if Croft plays he'll need the best game of his life.
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| Quote: vastman "Don't think it's fair to totally write Croft off. I tend to agree with PB that he's more championship than SL but he's way better than Sundays efforts.
He has also come back from a bad injury and was partnered (I think) with easily the worst winger we have had in years.
Lineham, Gaskell and Minns on the other hand have no excuses.
Sadly next Sundays sees us playing possibly one of the most lethal combination in SL, so if Croft plays he'll need the best game of his life.'"
I did not go to Salford but i would have no problem if he played again. Last time I saw him play was in the reserves when tupou made his brief return to action. He looked a better player than tupou that evening and he went well. To me its his lack of pace and general sharpness that is his weak point. However he is a big strong kid with a good attitude. I am no expert but I would have thought his future may be more of a second rower.
However if Minns, Lineham and Gaskill play and we havnt anyone else better right now then the club must be in a mess
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| Quote: Prince Buster "I did not go to Salford but i would have no problem if he played again. Last time I saw him play was in the reserves when tupou made his brief return to action. He looked a better player than tupou that evening and he went well. To me its his lack of pace and general sharpness that is his weak point. However he is a big strong kid with a good attitude. I am no expert but I would have thought his future may be more of a second rower.
However if Minns, Lineham and Gaskill play and we havnt anyone else better right now then the club must be in a mess'"
Minns is a disaster, Lineham is an unfunny joke.
Gaskell I feel sorry for, I really believe he wants to do well but no longer can, however that doesn't help us.
I can't bring myself to watch most games we lose, life is to short. But I think we all know that when a team gets destroyed on the flanks the problem is not just with the backs. Others are clearly not pulling their weight, and I know some won't like this but I think Lino is a big offender. I also suspect that Miller had one of his poorer games and this also added to the problems.
I say this because the stats suggest the forwards generally did their work in defence.
I may be wrong but I base this on games I've seen, even in the games we've won we have always looked vulnerable on the flanks.
Finally those thinking Jowitt will save the day are likely to be dissapointed. As an attacking FB and under the high ball Jowitt is first class, but his defence, especially near the line remain very weak IMHO.
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