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| Well done looks like you and yer mate have been out voted on this thread.
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| Quote: cheshirecat57 "Well done looks like you and yer mate have been out voted on this thread.'"
Hang on a minute, Im not too sure what I have done wrong here with this thread?
If you look at my posts, you will struggle to find one where i openly bag a player and I haven't here, I ask a simple question and actually give him praise. It`s not my style to bag players and I don`t do it.
Not too sure why you are referring to me as his mate either? I have had just about as many disagreements with 18 than any other poster if not more.
In terms of been outvoted im not too bothered to be honest, we have a Cas fan on here and a Widnes fan and a few of our fans that have seen the same as I have over the course of the season. Maybe I am just seeing things.
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| Maybe CC wants him to be more than a bit player and even that small bit of extra responsibility can affect players in different ways.
Maybe stick to using him off the bench with Fifita, with Keegan doing the unspectacular stuff.
We looked a lot more effective when England and Huby started and as already been said, Fifita is an impact player and better used off the bench.
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| And on the back of my last post, I am not Thickle, If we lost tonight there would of been a dozen posters on here jumping on all of the negatives. I am not one of those posters, I call it as I see it and win or lose this is something I have been thinking for a while now. Maybe I should have saved this thread for when we lost so I didnt upset Chesire and Vastman.
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| There is no doubt Keegan drops the ball but he is an offloading prop. It's no good saying he doesn't run to his size when that isn't what Chester is expecting of him.
He draws players in and offload. That means he carries more loosely meaning he sometimes drops it.
I want him to improve that side of his game but I don't want him to be a battering ram to do it.
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| Quote: homme vaste "Okay. Apologies for bringing something up that is directly related to WT on a WT forum and that was quite relevant to the game itself, some of you lot really do live in wonderland. We got a win tonight which is great, I was there and I supported the boys (Which is probably more than a lot of you) as I have done all season and am as pleased as anyone.
Just thought I would bring the point up as again tonight he dropped the ball without any pressure on a couple of occasions like he has done in every game he plays. As I said he is a good player and improving but just wondering why he is still making simple errors?
Even in victory, can we not look at where we need to improve? I hope CC focuses on these areas and not just "Cant we just enjoy the win" like you lot.'"
You really don’t like it back at you do you, as I suspected you’re a bit of a ........
Still I’m sure one of your aliases will soon turn up in support of you.
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| Quote: Trinity18 "Homme Vaste - you’re 100% correct and CheshireCat/Vastman you baffle me with the drivel you put.
Regardless of the result CC will be looking at the good things and the bad. A professional athlete who’s job is to catch a ball and drive it through needs to be evaluated when he can’t do half of his job.'"
And right on cue - so obvious to ‘almost’ everyone.
For the record I don’t rate Hirst either and he drops the ball way to much for SL standard player - the point however was let’s just enjoy the moment but then that’s now why your on here is it...
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| Quote: vastman "And right on cue - so obvious to ‘almost’ everyone.
For the record I don’t rate Hirst either and he drops the ball way to much for SL standard player - the point however was let’s just enjoy the moment but then that’s now why your on here is it...'"
Haha go enjoy the moment over on the Widnes thread created, don’t comment on a thread created specifically about a player and someone’s view on him just because you don’t think it should be said.
I am glad put the bit about him not being super league standard though.
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| Quote: Trinity18 "Homme Vaste - you’re 100% correct and CheshireCat/Vastman you baffle me with the drivel you put.'"
Apologies for not having anything negative to say about Keegan Hirst, as for Cheshire and vasty I'm not sure how they'll respond to being accused of talking drivel by the actual King of drivel on RLfans
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| Quote: Trinity18 "[iGoing to be the bigger man. [/i
Back to Keegan - I like him as a player but Homme Vaste is right, he cannot catch a ball. I did comment on this along with England a few weeks ago.'"
Well, looks like you've won that one. !
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| Homme vast is correct. Keegan does lose possession too frequently and he is not sl standard IMO. And that part has not improved in one and a half seasons.
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| Keegan started this season really well and was one of the best props for a couple of games but he has gone off the boil a bit recently. His technique when he runs the ball in is a little strange and his catching technique as well which results in a few errors.
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| Some times I wonder if people smoke crack before coming on here
I've not looked at the sats but I don't believe keegan drops the ball more than any one else
He absolutely is a SL standard player and I'm very glad he is signed to wakefield trinity
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| Quote: musson "Some times I wonder if people smoke crack before coming on here
I've not looked at the sats but I don't believe keegan drops the ball more than any one else
He absolutely is a SL standard player and I'm very glad he is signed to wakefield trinity'"
He does I’m afraid watch Trinity TV. It’s not so much the knock ins it’s how many are unforced, seriously it’s dire. Just watch the last game against Cas he dropped two cold and put us totally on the back foot and was quickly withdrawn.
In every other respect I’d say he probably is just about SL standard but not being able to retain the ball is a real issue.
He clearly knows he has an issue because if you watch him he has a very odd way of taking the ball as if he’s going through a process.
I understand why many people want Keegan to succeed for various reasons. However despite being a superb physical specimen he’s spent nearly all his career in the lower leagues and I suspect this is the reason why.
Just my opinion it’s not the heroin talking
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| Quote: vastman "And right on cue - so obvious to ‘almost’ everyone.
For the record I don’t rate Hirst either and he drops the ball way to much for SL standard player - the point however was let’s just enjoy the moment but then that’s now why your on here is it...'"
I think you're dead right here.
On both counts, especially the first one.
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