Wise words that will fall on deaf ears.

Thats my biggest fear mate if they dont take notice then we end up back at stage one.All the hard work that has been done will have been for nothing.

Not what I've heard. Could just be a rumour but there's no smoke without fire.

I'll ask then whats the smoke saying

Na not John Kear, atleast we are capable of playing some quite entertaining/expansive rugby at times under agar. Question is: is this current group of players capable of better and are underachieving under agar, or are they just actually not really that good.....?

Think should stick with Agar till end of season then if we've gone backwards, get rid although it'll cost for the 3rd year of his contract and a drop in pre-season ticket sales if we don't turn it around and/or sack Agar.

Apart from Annakin I wouldn't renew any of this lots contracts or extend them. There are a few fringe players that have not progressed in last 12 months and think a career in the championship beckons for them. There are those in the first 20 who are not up to it week in week out whether its fitness or heart or both I'm not sure but there won't be a queue to sign them. We all know who they are that follow the team so they won't be named.

Can't look at shifting many of them now as need the bodies as squad is so small but there is a lack of passion from such a disjointed defensive and attacking display and think there may be trouble at mill between players and coaches as they clearly aren't taking on board instruction/ coaching if its happening?

If you get the chance to look at that game again when it showed the changing room at half time it looked as though no one cared less least of all Agar.

Can't see agar going given that contract extensions and new signings are being made

Kear kept us up, but ended with us playing some of the worst rugby I've ever seen us play.

Ithought under JK it was JD who did the motivation and player rattling?

I'd rather bring back JD than JK

JD now that was a player who while not the greatest of players gave his all and even gave it when he was carrying an injury.

There may be quite a few players in that situation now too. Thin squad, chance your arm syndrome. If so, it seems the wrong approach to me, though I can understand why.

Back to Kear: no, thanks. I think it's up to the players now to take what the coach says on board. I think Agar is the meticulous sort who really does go into detail, and doesn't expect to have to give the rousing half-time team talk, because he expects his players to be intelligent enough and motivated enough to know what to do.