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| Farce from start to finish! In what way has the club been held responsible for this situation? They lost a few points, wow but what else? It looks to have been a very positive thing for the Bulls going into admin and it shouldn't be!!!
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| Did Glover/Elston vote in favour? And regardless, how can a democratic vote be classed on here as bent?
You may not agree with the outcome, and I'm as sick of the whole thing as anyone, but you can't call it 'bent' and such like.
Again, there but for the grace go we.
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| If we agreed I think it would be if we were told SL wouldn't be reduced. I next licence period will see a return of p&r with conditions.
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| anyway all in all just a week to go for it to be all settled
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| Without doubt this situation will happen again. It will be very interesting to see if the next club that finds itself in trouble with its finance will get the same treatment as the bulls? As for splitting the SL teams to form a super /super league I think that move would be a disaster and as fans we should all do something about it not just sit back and complain.
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "We were granted a Super League licence for 3 years in the same year that we went into administration and bought out of it. I'm not sure we can preach double standards. If the Bulls are bought out of admin and remain in Super League, I can't see the difference with us, apart from the fact that they have been allowed to retain a full playing roster, but was that more to do with the fact that it was mid-season. We had ours sorted by the time it got going and so maybe the same would have happened to us if it had been mid-season.'"
Yeah ok Slugger! If I remember rightly we asked for guarentees for Super league and couldn't be given them,AG took on Wakey probably expecting us to end up in the Championship,the Bulls as I see it have been given guarentees,a great deal of difference to me,it stinks to high heaven.put us in the Bulls position,no concrete buyer,plenty of rumour and speculation,would Super league buy us out/bail us out,yeah we know the answer to that!! A complete farce! And when the time comes that one of us Cas,Salford or Widnes are being forced out of Super league to reduce the number of clubs to 12 or 13, I hope to hell we get off our arzes and remind the RL/SL of this fiasco!!!!
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| Quote: JINJER "Yeah ok Slugger! If I remember rightly we asked for guarentees for Super league and couldn't be given them,AG took on Wakey probably expecting us to end up in the Championship,the Bulls as I see it have been given guarentees,a great deal of difference to me,it stinks to high heaven.put us in the Bulls position,no concrete buyer,plenty of rumour and speculation,would Super league buy us out/bail us out,yeah we know the answer to that!! A complete farce! And when the time comes that one of us Cas,Salford or Widnes are being forced out of Super league to reduce the number of clubs to 12 or 13, I hope to hell we get off our arzes and remind the RL/SL of this fiasco!!!!'"
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Once again if this happens we will do nothing but compain on this forum. If there is a hint of this happening then we should do something about it. Without fans the game is nothing.
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| Quote: Stanley Cat "Jinder
Once again if this happens we will do nothing but compain on this forum. If there is a hint of this happening then we should do something about it. Without fans the game is nothing.'"
I can just see him now with a turban on
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "We were granted a Super League licence for 3 years in the same year that we went into administration and bought out of it. I'm not sure we can preach double standards. If the Bulls are bought out of admin and remain in Super League, I can't see the difference with us, apart from the fact that they have been allowed to retain a full playing roster, but was that more to do with the fact that it was mid-season. We had ours sorted by the time it got going and so maybe the same would have happened to us if it had been mid-season.'"
I don't think anyone is preaching double standards. I think our situation and the Bulls are a little different.
We went into Administration and the Administrator sold off players presumably to pay creditors or more than likely cover his own fee. The Bulls have not seen a single player sold and who is paying Gillfoyles fee.
We were bought by Andrew Glover with no guarantees on what league we would be playing in, we could have easily have been in the Championship but we had to apply for a franchise like everyone else. We were successful and I'd like to think it was that our bid was strong rather than Crusaders pulling out or Halifax's bid being pap but quite frankly its now immaterial. Whoever buys the Bulls, dispite the RFL saying no guarantees seem to being given a guarantee of SL, at least for a further 2 years.
We tried to pay off creditors long before the Administrator was called in. Tax bills were paid by selling Ryan Atkins and Danny Brough and Sir Rodney Walker loaned us money to settle one of the winding up orders. Unfortunately it wasn't enough. I have not heard of Bradford paying anything to the HMRC or ant creditor and we know they have not sold any players.
Andrew Glover paid off a fair few of the Creditors even though he probably had no obligation to do so. I wonder if the purchasers of the Bulls will pay off any of the creditiors including the HMRC (or in part). I guess we'll have to see.
Something about this whole situation does not add up and I'm very surprised that Potter has been working for nothing for all these weeks - how has he paid his bills - I doubt that he has been spending his life savings because he loves the Bulls so much.
I have nothing against the Bulls but it seems that they are being treated differently to say if it was us Salford or Castleford who were in the same postion. I guess we'll have to wait and see if anyone goes pop next and how that is dealt with.
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| Quote: snowie "icon_lol.gif I can just see him now with a turban on
Ha bloody ha!!
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| Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "What I don't get is all this iconic big club nonsense, they had a successful team for a few years but are not what I'd call a big club. The problem with Bradford is Bradford without sounding racist alot of people have moved out of Bradford and have been replaced by non RL public hence Bradford not being a RL playing hotbed & the bulls having to throw their money at youngsters from Wakey cas fev batley etc. I'm not saying that if bought out of admin they should be relegated, we weren't and they shouldn't. But if it's a newco they should go down, it wouldn't make much difference to us if they were replaced by fax or fev and at least they produce more players'"
The whole of your post was utter garbage but the first bit highlighted is just laughable.
All the bitter comments I've read on this board over the last couple of weeks make me hope even more that we make the play offs at the expense of your club.
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| Quote: bigchris "The whole of your post was utter garbage but the first bit highlighted is just laughable.
When you say we? I take it you mean the rfl funded team playing under the bulls banner at maximum salary cap which the club can I'll afford.
Maybe you should be a little more modest about the special treatment the bulls have been getting past months.
I have sympathy for bulls fans as do most on here for being put through the mill but as far as the rfl/administrator and whole affair it smacks of double standards.
What would you expect to hear from fans of a club who went through the same your fans did but saw players sold for peanuts, little exposure and barely any rfl intervention? Ofcourse there will be bitterness but for the game as a whole it's a joke of a soap opera.
The bulls fans and game reputation are the victims in this affair but the bulls club and rfl seem anything but.
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| I think too much is being read into the article.
The way I read it, the other SL clubs have all agreed that SL should remain a 14 club competition and have been updated on the progress of the bids for the Bulls.
There doesn't seem to be any guarantee that the Bulls WILL be in SL next year, and I suspect that if there isn't a business plan that addresses the historic debts then the Bulls will lose their licence.
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| I've tried to avoid posting on here for a couple of weeks due to the fact I am struggling to post anything positive and with great on field performances it seems to go against how I feel right now, but this situation with the Bulls is a total joke, the RFL need to take a long hard look at their involment in this saga and may even take responsibility for its fruition, I have lost faith totally in the game and think that the credibility and integrity of the sport has been seriously damaged by the governing body, I think I'm going to stick to ARL and hope that BARLA don't compromise themselves in the same way as the RFL
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