That's why I will PM, for heavens sake give me a chance I'm trying to celebrate beating Cas.

A burning bush.

Quite a climb-down from "AG hasn't done this that and the other," don't you think?

You've overstepped the mark by quite some margin in this thread; maybe your judgement was tainted by a desire to paint AG in a negative light?

Well A G said that after putting in the hours to complete our franchise application he would be concentrating on Newmarket

I'd be interested to know also because I was at the meeting and I thought it went well.

Whatever you want to believe old luv, but I'm sure Mr Armidillo will confirm that my post was valid. Also if you can be bothered to read my post, you can read I assume, I clearly stated and I mean clearly clearly stated so that even someone as blinkered as you couldn't miss it that I was working on old info. As it happens I wasn't wrong. What I wasn't sure about and am now is that AG is now far more involved in NM than he was.

Please try not to view every post that isn't firmly imbedded up AG's backside or overly besotted with the latest latest flavour of the month like yours are as criticism or lacking validity - it shows you up for the small minded person you are.

I don't set myself up any higher than anyone else. However I have given countless free hours of my time and money to the cause in the last 10 years, certainly more than you and your playmates. This doesn't make me right or a saint but it sure as hell gives me the right to an opinion and to question anyone I wish as regards this club. The only person to overstep the mark is you, how arrogant to assume you even know where the mark is let alone to tell anyone they have overstepped it.

I'll listen to and debate your opinions any time you like but don't you dare attempt to set the rules, you have to be somebody to do that.

Ask Inflatable, he will tell you and I think you will understand where I'm coming from.

Does anyone know who owns Belle Vue at the moment?

I think he is - I know think he realises how much of a task it will be, something he probably didn't before.

With absolutely no fear of upsetting the AG poodles (loved saying that) this project bigger certainly different than anything that AG has been involved in before. He has a lot of learning to do and quickly. Before the poodles bark and whine, this is NOT a criticism - why should a guy who makes and sells conservatories and windows be expected to be up to speed on stadium builds straight away.

Again before the poodles go off on one I thought Ted was out of his depth on this one and he was fairly experienced in property development. It is BIG BIG money.

NM isn't just a stadium which alone is a 20 million pound development, it's part of a 200 million pound development. No one is born with the knowledge to do something like this, they have to learn on the job. AG has been thrown in the deep end and has also had other pressing issues. The problem is that NM is a full time job for someone and I don't see how the existing management can accommodate that, I hope to see some reinforcements arriving. I also think AG made a big mistake letting Francis go, not to push NM but to relieve the burden.

These are genuine concerns, assuming that is still acceptable.

Not really, I'd say a few have an interest.

I picture flecks of spittle on your monitor after typing that, and one eye twitching uncontrollably. Am I right?

You need to calm down our kid - you'll make yourself poorly.

It's a pity the ST isn't further advanced.

1000 fans paying £1000 would probably be able to buy BV and hold it in trust for the club.

You wish once again it would seem vasty has left you speechless, which judging by this forum is no mean achievement