Who?

He's taking the Pee mate

I'm obviously missing something here!

Now that Smith has given up his international job, I wonder if Ryan wants back at WT?

i have said that for ages pal.
the aussis have been doing it for years and look how they are.

no disrepect to any of the england team we showed for 60 mins last night we could match them but as son as they turned up the gas we had nothing

i wanna see us turn the aussie over every time and start winning big compitions.

like mccray said last night the aussies have not only the nrl week in week out they have the state of origin so when it comes to big compitions like the four nations, the world cup and the tri nations they can handle the big stage and win.

i think we need to bring back yorkshire vs lancshire and more international games against the likes of new zeland and the aussies so we can progress our game

Personally I not a fan of England, I much prefer to see a Great Britain team taking on the touring sides from Oz and NZ in a three game series.

In reality that won't happen for a long time because NZ don't draw crowds in a Test Series so the Four Nations is the best way to go, even at the expense of the Ashes. We should take a page out of the union book, rather than them from us for a change, and only use GB for tours to Australia/NZ, but, again, I think, for the near future at least, the Four Nations is best, running alongside the Pacific/European Cups.

Which 'true' Welsh/Irish/Scottish players would have got into the team yesterday?

I think its time to start looking for a new head coach boys!! Kear is the only english coach up to the job and the RFL would be mad to offer it anyone else IMO

You're right about the players. It may be nostaglia speaking, but the first GB game I went to was at Wembley against the Aussies in 1990, a feeling I will never forget. And whether it is us going down under, or them coming here, as a fan I feel there is somethings special about seeing a united British team taking on the Green and Gold shirt.

In fact, the only better feeling I have is when I think of the Wakefield team giving them a run for their money the same season. What a night that was! Just imagine what a touring Aussie team would do for the crowds at Belle Vue!

IMO the only way forward is to develop a four nations competition which would include teams from England Ireland Scotland Wales, from which a Great Britain coach can choose a team.

This is the only way we can hope to develop a team capable of beating the Aussies or Kiwis on a regular basis.

It would also be a way for the more talented Amateurs/semi professionals to be spotted thus enhancing our professional game whilst giving them the opportunity to perform on the big stage thus helping super league teams the opportunity to fulfil one of their requirements by developing junior players.

Just a thought

According to the RFL press release they're looking for a full-time Head Coach for England - no sharing it with club commitments.

From the RFL press release:

"The recruitment of a new Head Coach will start straight away with RFL Chairman Richard Lewis assembling a panel chaired by Chief Executive Nigel Wood and including performance professionals and a former international player.

The panel will launch a two pronged campaign that will include targeted and open recruitment both domestically and internationally. Coaches will be assessed by the panel against set criteria to establish a shortlist of candidates. A recommendation will then be put forward to the RFL Board for approval.

As well as leading the preparation and coaching of the senior national team, the new Head Coach will also oversee the England Under 20’s team and mentor the U20’s coach. He will also work with the Head of the England Elite Training Squad to develop a four-year plan to produce 30 world class players for the 2013 World Cup.

As part of the restructure former Great Britain and England international Barrie Jon Mather was appointed as Head of Player Development, Clive Brewer as Head of Human Performance and Paddy Mortimer as Head of England’s Elite Training Squad which currently consists of 17 players – all personnel the new Head Coach will work in partnership with.

Mather is responsible for working with clubs to manage and implement the RFL’s revised player development programme which makes clubs the focal point of developing new and improved talent as well as overseeing England’s Under 18s and 16s programmes.

Sports science expert Brewer is responsible for implementing systems through sports science, strength and conditioning and medicine that will mean all players are well prepared and perform to their ultimate capability.

Paddy Mortimer who has previously worked as Performance Manager at Chelsea FC and Performance Psychologist and Strength and Conditioning Coach at Leicester Tigers is responsible for the Elite Training Squad which focuses on the implementation of individualised player development plans in conjunction with club coaches.

Wonder when we will be advertising to fill our vacant position !!

I guess there may be some kudos attached to being England coach but its a "poisoned chalice". The reason we cannot beat the Aussies in my opinion is not down to coaching but simply due to the fact that they are better players all round than us.

In Australia RL and RU are ahead of football so youngsters want to play Rugby so there is a steady production line of talent coming through. Also the climate helps and the fact that Australia seems more sport orientated than the UK.

In my opinion we will never be on a par with Australia whatever we do, that may seem a negative attitude and I guess it is but its what I believe. Over 20 years ago I said that I would never see GB (or England) beat Australia in a test series in my lifetime. I stand by that statement and if anything I think the gap between us is widenening.

Its no use even thinking about who should get the 'job' as whoever is appointed has little chance of coaching a successful England team.
By successful i mean competing with the Aussies,not beating them more than they beat us because imo that is an impossibility,but the odd win over here and at least giving us fans a hope that we are a team with a 'chance' against them.Sadly at present our game structure means we are as far away as ever of competing with them.
SL has not and will not work-the very structure of our game needs an overhaul for us to close the massive gap between the 2 nations.
For what its worth a few suggestions.
More money needs to filter down to the non SL clubs.A 2 tier 14 club SL needs to be formed with the rest being relegated to the Conference.
Some clubs have absolutely no chance of making ends meet with crowds of 300 etc and will never be able to.However in order to give clubs a chance to progress automatic promotion/relegation from the conference should be allowed subject to only the most basic of criteria i.e ground.We cannot take away what sport in GB has been formulated around promotion/relegation-we are not in Australia or USA -what works their does not mean we have to change or adapt generations of 'natural' competition.
That leads on to automatic promotion/relegation between the 2 SL leagues-competition, whether clubs are at the top or bottom breeds intensity which is just what we will get in any international.
How do we get more money into SL2?
if Sky wont increase their contract then they/RFL must allow the possibility of attracting a different TV contract for SL 2-ESPN etc,you never know as the current championship offers good competitive RL,and would,as it does on Sky now attract decent viewing figures.Hopefully that increased revenue for the 2nd tier clubs would mean a better enviroment to develop the young players and that just might result in more home bred future SL1 players being produced which naturally leads onto a better standard of home bred international RL player being produced.
Just as importantly we need to somehow restrict the overseas quota to say a max of 3 in SL1 and 1 in SL2.There just not enough opportunity in the key positions available at present due to the current rules.
Sadly,to me and many others what appears as reasonable logic i fear will not be even considered.I may be way off the mark,but one point i am convinced about is that unless a lot changes we will never compete against the Aussies.