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Quote: pyeman "Neither us nor wakey are reliant on the council so in that way the economic downturn doesnt effect us, wakey wouldnt have a ground in cas and cas wouldnt have a ground in wakey, so we are left with putting one in the middle but that could still lose fans for both teams and in the end there would be only one team surviving, so we would end up with rl losing one of the few teams that could support sl rugby.

Not only that but both projects are so far down the road, that to start again would mean we would miss the franchise deadline for certain, and the whole point of the new stadiumsbeing finished as quickly is possible is for a franchise.

The outcome of a shared stadium is that one team will die, possibley both.

On the outside it would seem to me that you should move into saints new stadium as it means that you wouldnt be tenants ofafootball club and you and saints could share the running costs. How viable does this idea seem to you?'"



I don't see how a shared stadium would lose fans if it was situated between the two teams, surely a supporter supports a team not an area of grass with rugby posts at each end. Inter and AC Milan seem to manage, non of them "died"

On the Wigan point, Wigan have a 50+ year lease on the ground (DW stadium) at a nominal rent, which is beneficial to the club as far as running costs are concerned.
We won't have problem with a Superleague license, however if we were in the same position as Saints and yourselves and we were offered a groundshare with Saints in Billinge or Ashton for example then I wouldn't see a problem.

My concern for Wakefield and/or Cas is that if things don't start to happen in the next few months then one of you will be lost to Superleague at the next franchise allocation which is something none of us want.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I don't see how a shared stadium would lose fans if it was situated between the two teams, surely a supporter supports a team not an area of grass with rugby posts at each end. Inter and AC Milan seem to manage, non of them "died"

On the Wigan point, Wigan have a 50+ year lease on the ground (DW stadium) at a nominal rent, which is beneficial to the club as far as running costs are concerned.
We won't have problem with a Superleague license, however if we were in the same position as Saints and yourselves and we were offered a groundshare with Saints in Billinge or Ashton for example then I wouldn't see a problem.

My concern for Wakefield and/or Cas is that if things don't start to happen in the next few months then one of you will be lost to Superleague at the next franchise allocation which is something none of us want.'"


Only because you are not in that position , if you were it would

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Quote: Starbug "Only because you are not in that position , if you were it would'"


I concur. A lot of fans say one thing, but if the boot was in their position it would be a whole different matter.

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Quote: Starbug "Only because you are not in that position , if you were it would'"



Quote: Starbug "I concur. A lot of fans say one thing, but if the boot was in their position it would be a whole different matter.'"



Just so that I am clear on this.

Are you saying that you (either Wakey or Cas) would rather lose your Superleague license than groundshare at a new purpose built stadium somewhere between the two towns?

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Yes.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Just so that I am clear on this.

Are you saying that you (either Wakey or Cas) would rather lose your Superleague license than groundshare at a new purpose built stadium somewhere between the two towns?'"



I'd rather us retain our own identity in our own stadium than lose our identity playing outside of our respective town of Castleford, yes. I'll follow Castleford in whatever league and I firmly believe that licences should focus more on the rugby, not the stadia they are played in. After all, The Jungle is one of the most loved stadiums amongst rugby fans so what damage is it doing in all honesty? I recognise the fact that we need contemporary facilities but don't think the amount of urgency placed by the RFL on it should take precedent over other licensing points, for instance player development.

Also, they have to take into consideration the financial state of clubs, the fact we do not have richer footballing neighbours of whom we can share facilities with such as yourselfs, nor do we have councils willing to stump X amount of funding as part-payment.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I don't see how a shared stadium would lose fans if it was situated between the two teams, surely a supporter supports a team not an area of grass with rugby posts at each end. Inter and AC Milan seem to manage, non of them "died"'"


They're also based in, shock horror, MILAN so it's the same city, Cas isn't Wakefield, it's Castleford and that's why it wont work it's as simple as that, it'd be like Wigan playing in St Helens.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Just so that I am clear on this.

Are you saying that you (either Wakey or Cas) would rather lose your Superleague license than groundshare at a new purpose built stadium somewhere between the two towns?'"

The new purpose built Community stadium at Stanley is equal distance from Wakefield City Centre and cas town centre. It's been offered to all sporting clubs in the district

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Quote: Fully "I'd rather us retain our own identity in our own stadium than lose our identity playing outside of our respective town of Castleford, yes. I'll follow Castleford in whatever league and I firmly believe that licences should focus more on the rugby, not the stadia they are played in. After all, The Jungle is one of the most loved stadiums amongst rugby fans so what damage is it doing in all honesty? I recognise the fact that we need contemporary facilities but don't think the amount of urgency placed by the RFL on it should take precedent over other licensing points, for instance player development.

Also, they have to take into consideration the financial state of clubs, the fact we do not have richer footballing neighbours of whom we can share facilities with such as yourselfs, nor do we have councils willing to stump X amount of funding as part-payment.'"

that is the problem, each club don't want to lose their identity and the Stanley community stadium is the closest your going to get to retaining it if we was going to share, Fev have made a bold statement in saying that they are willing to go it alone very brave of them but good luck to them,
both Wakefield and Castleford are strong enough in history and in a strong hold of talent but its financially whether they can keep up with the others

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Maybe so Snowie mate, but I'd rather us fall into Championship mediocrity if it meant following Castleford, in Castleford. I would never a support a 'fake' Castleford side outside of the town. The heritage has been at The Jungle, in Castleford. We are progressing with plans for a new stadium. The RFL have to take into consideration that we have authorities that do not have the money to support two stadiums, we do not have the money ourselves in terms of sugar daddies and also the fact we're in the midst of an economic slowdown which has put constraints on any form of developments. The amount of progression we're going to make is relatively slow when thinking of these constraints. As long as we're showing a willingness to move and actually showing progression, shouldn't that be satisfactory enough for them to ensure we can move on to the other licencing factors?

If it was St Helens in this boat, would the RFL have promised to promote one side? I doubt it. Would they kick them out? I doubt it.

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So frustrating the way the RFL is pushing reform on the league structure, with us going to Stanley and putting new footings on the boundary of Wakefield area we have excepted this as we
1 wouldn't of survived,
2 see this as a ideal place to settle down without too much upset to the community,
both stadiums are placed on the M62 corridor in which the RFL wanted to break away from still doesn't make us safe if we both get our stadiums

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When it's built and we're in we can be like those annoying Huddersfield supporters who chant "Fartown". We can chant "BelleVue" or "Agbrigg" or "Doncaster Road" icon_idea.gif

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Just so that I am clear on this.

Are you saying that you (either Wakey or Cas) would rather lose your Superleague license than groundshare at a new purpose built stadium somewhere between the two towns?'"



Wouldn't bother me too much as I'm a Leyther , but if it was dual club stadium in Hindley for us and you lot , I'd go watching East and Miners in LEIGH

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Just so that I am clear on this.

Are you saying that you (either Wakey or Cas) would rather lose your Superleague license than groundshare at a new purpose built stadium somewhere between the two towns?'"


No what we are saying is that at the very least one of the clubs will die if not both if we ground share.

At least one sl licence will be lost if we share.

Have you answered my question would you play at saints new ground and what effect do you think you it would have on your club if you did?

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I don't think a ground share at Stanley would kill off Cas if their supporters still backed them and were loyal enough to watch them there. After all they go to other grounds to watch them every other week so why not 3 mile up the road in Stanley. In fact I bet quite a few would find it easier and quicker to get to Stanley than it is to get darn't lane.

I know Glasshoughton is by far the best option but Stanley as a short term move or worse still a permenant move would not be the end of the world.

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