With regards to why our last three coaches have quit, id say two of them were pushed because they weren't very good, and the third well lacked the bottle. When you come to a club like Wakey you come to it with your wide eyes open and see it for what is - poor facilities and a lack of money. If you come to Wakey wanting financial backing (Smith got that but wasted it) and then complain that you don't have enough money, then you should've bloody well thought about what club you were joining! I have been a huge critic of Carter but come on, Agar and Webster deserved to be sacked or pushed to quitting because they were crap.

It's a bl**dy mess I know that - who's at fault I no longer care.

Last week I hadthe pleasure of chatting to Mopsey who like most of us on here is far more reasonable in the flesh so to speak.

He said two things that stuck in my head and remember this was before Smith left.

He said he's sick of turning up for matches without hope - how true is that.

He also said that if Trinity were a dog they would have put it down by now (or something very similar) - again you have to wonder.

For me it's not just on the field, in some ways we have had a better time of it than say Widnes or Salford for example (in recent times). But when you ad on the endless cost cutting, selling of even the most average of players, the financial scandals, the endless ground scenario and the now unforgiveable state BV is in then you realise how badly as fans we have been treated. Salford and Widnes have been crap for years however both are at last starting to flourish and the great hope their fans have is that with a bit of nous and a bit of luck they might taste some sucess.

Anybody think we ever will?

I hope not to die young but at 53 I can't see it happening in my lifetime. What I can see is me outliving the club.

Cas fan in peace.

Whats Craig Poskitt doing around your club?. He was (not sure if he still is) big mates with the probiz guy?

If you let Craig poskitt near your club your done for he nearly bankrupt us when he was commercial manager and then did same at fev.
Whilst I know we are rivals I wouldn't wish him on any club

Media and Commercial are covered at the club by two seperate individuals who both work extremely hard and have a good measure of success.

The only position open to Craig Poskitt would be Chief Executive but I think that's Chris Breretons role.

OK I'm craping myself now regarding bs comments what the hell is going on !!!!! Please tell us the truth no bull !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sometimes he has to hold thing back to ensure that the dirty washing behind the scenes isn't aired in public, so i'm not bagging him for that. But people who have worked there see the goings on and things are not always as they seem to the outside world. Some people take everything that comes from the club as gospel but that can be dangerous as it can mask some issues. Brian Smith has gone about his departure in very much the wrong way but at the bottom of it is his concern that there are some deeper problems at the club than people would like to admit. Smith though needs to come out with specifics or stop posting stuff on facebook about it as without doing that nothing will ever bring about the change he obviously feels is needed.

Interesting, I am exactly that age too so we must have shared the same painful experiences over the years. What part of the Merrie City were you dragged up in?

I could be way off the mark here but listening to Yorkshire radio today the wakey fan Richard said about tomorrow nights show should be interesting with what will go on tomorrow afternoon so whether it involves Wakey we will have to see.

But according to MC at the time both Agar and Webster both decided to quit, he was prepared to back them and was upset when James quit. Don't get me wrong like every other fan I was happy to see the back of them. Not that we have done much better.......

All very depressing once again, i thought with Smith in charge we could have been building a future but it appears it was built on sand again. It seems this club has a major attitude problem from top to bottom and it is all leading to it heading in one direction, down. MC has balanced the books yes which is an achievement in its own right (and should be thanked by all for that) but by god we need a change and some serious investment from somewhere. He nearly called it quits at the end of last season, maybe for the sake of his own health he should have. Mr Carter and his sidekick has served their purpose but you get the feeling it is now or never for the club. He said he took it on to try and recoup some of the money he'd put in, well it's time to cut those losses and get actively looking for a buyer. Without somebody with deep pockets i fear we are done for as a top flight club and i'm sure as an intelligent man he must know that.

All that said please not Poskitt and his fake Sheik mate. They are bad news.

I would like to comment on a few points

1. Regarding fault yes its hard to judge, but regarding responsibility the buck always has to stop with the top man.

2. I think the vet will arrive soon disguised as an RL official. The club and everything about it are an embarrassment to SL and many people are starting to say that. I can't see the RFL putting up with us for much longer.

3. I can give you 10 years so I even have less chance than you. However I was lucky enough to see some special years of this
club and I suppose that's something to be thankful for.

Ted Richardson part 2 !!!!?????

Well I'm a lot nearer 60 than 50 and if I'm honest I don't see me going to a Grand/Wembley final even if I follow in my mums side of the family who most lived to a big age mid 90s. I think this next Coach has to be bang on or I fear the club will slide out of SL and could tumble even further down. Alas I don't see a sugar daddy as he would have been with the club now I will do the Lotto on Tuesday but like Wakey the odds are against me

It's amazing how the avenger digs in when he thinks someones got a few years behind em he's attacked me with a similar venom now he's on to brian smith , I'm suprised at your remarks bren in my view I'd much rather believe the aussie version of things than that of carter and his partner who I think are two unpleasant men and I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw em.Back to you avenger , presume your not in my day for nobody wbut ould have insulted me pick on an old guy if you get pleasure out of it 20 yrs ago you'd have been stretched out , no I haven't been drinking nor am I dreaming