Agree with some of the above. Hyde seems to have a poor kicking game and his decision making is poor also. I dont think he will be a SL player of the future. Same with Griffin unforunately too. I think Howarth could be a really good 13. Just needs a bit more timber on his back imo as his passing in tight spaces is very good .

Jesus Christ the bull that's coming out of some people tonight - "Hyde won't be SL player of the future", you weren't bloody saying that after cas away! vievers has joined us from wigan academy as has howarth - they ain't exactly going to light the world on fire but they are improving. a month or so ago we were fully supporting these lads and now because we're out of the cup we're slamming them with these comment ! talk about giving the team a morale boost!

i judge this years team on progression, not on wins alone,

beaten by cas at cardiff, since then returned the favour and then gone to extra time in the cup, only beaten by Wigan 0-26 at home,(look at last years result), yes we need something, but Kieran Hyde is trying to create that and sometimes has, i would like to bet my all time hero toppo wasn't 110% all of the time even he may have slipped to 98% but he was not scrutinised this much.

Agreed. Effort is not the issue. But the lack of good decision making all over, last tackle options and lack of real cutting edge in attack is. As you say is some are more like NL players but are playing and giving absolute effort worty of SL standard.

The fact is. that most of our team are trying to learn their game and get experience, in Super League. We all know that most of them, that came here, are not the finished article but have shown, that they are learning and getting better. I think from where we were a few months ago, to where the team is now, is very encouraging but we as fans, always want our team to win and tend to lose a little perspective, especially after the wins we've had, of where this team is as far as talent..

Kieron Hyde was against Rangi Chase today; currently the best player in Super League if you believe the hype (personally I do and think Cas are a one man band for it). The score at 80 minutes was 18-18. I think Kieron did alright.

Get off his back and let him develop!!!!!

me too...
He was trying his knackers off too, Tackling as well...

at last someone understands!

I've thought for a while that Hyde isn't up to the standard that others believe he is. I wasn't at Castleford so I'm not in a postion to comment, but I certainly don't think he is the playmaker we are crying out for, and whether he will develop into that I'm not sure. I did feel that our recruitment at the start of the season was geared towards building a side that would compete in the Championship next season, and feel that players like Hyde, Vievers, Griffin and Howarth will all stand out in a lower division. If we are to stay up, and Glover brings in the players that have been suggested, players of this calibre will see their game time reduced drastically.

Also, wasn't Hyde signed as full back?

Howarth is clearly super league standard, the others all have competed well in the games they've played but still need a bit more time and nurturing. Don't think anyones let us down this season and it will be interesting to see how the careers of our squad pan out over the coming years.