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Quote: wrencat1873 "I dream of being a bog roll hoarder
Well not kitchen roll if that's of any help icon_confused.gif

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Went through Cas this morning, and in a van window was a sign saying no toilet rolls left in this van overnight.

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Quote: Wildmoggy "Well not kitchen roll if that's of any help
The cheap stuff goes down ok but, if you use any of the fancy stuff, you may have a blockage icon_biggrin.gif

Always amazed me that betting slips never seemed to cause a problem in William Hills. Mind you, they were as bad as Izal, which was guaranteed to slip a little (if you know what i mean icon_wink.gif ).

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Quote: Wildmoggy "Well not kitchen roll if that's of any help Try specsavers! Its called one sheet icon_lol.gif

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Quote: wrencat1873 "I dream of being a bog roll hoarder
Daily Star, Sun, Mirror.

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Quote: Fishermanscap "For me, there are two great destructors of society that are man-made. They are religious people and political people though frankly there one of the same in my book.

These are people who are utterly convinced they are right and have the answers. At the moment the worst offenders are the die-hard socialists on here, but if labour were in charge I’m sure it would be the other way around.

They cover their bitterness by claiming that debate and questioning make governments do the right thing which inevitably is their thing.

For example, we have a poster on here he is usually quite sound claiming that his opinion and that of others changed the government's opinion on the herd response. Utter self-opinionated rubbish, how the hell do they know the PM has changed his stance or that the theory is wrong? They don’t but like thousand of little Piers Morgan’s they are convinced they do. Ditto profiteering and assistance on wages etc.

Stop talking crap, you don’t have the figures, you don’t have the facts and virtually nobody has the knowledge!

In these situations which are less than once in a lifetime public opinion and the democratic process counts for very little. Do you think the virus cares what you think?

It’s at times like these where those we elect have to take charge and we have to back them and trust them. They are the only ones with any real oversight and power.

They will get stuff wrong, Churchill got loads wrong. We lost far more battle than the Germans but we won the war, it’s only ever the last battle that really counts.

So why don’t people drop the party political stuff? Sure question things you think are wrong but do so to help not to point score. If you must then do it at home, bore the wife to death.

In the meantime let those with the responsibility do their jobs without this pathetic backbiting.

There will be plenty of time for recriminations later when all the bodies are buried and we have the final tally. How large that number is will depend hugely on people obeying the authorities whether they like it or not.

Some serious growing up is required by some, we’ve all had an easy like since 1945 but the fun may now be over and you might have to get used to it. That, by the way, includes Boris and his vain attempt to appear libertarian, won’t work mate as the virus is a thug.

Oh, and I might be wrong, see its easy
Took me a while to get through the waffle, but I persevered & still couldn’t find where you attempted to answer the very simple points I actually made about NHS beds & chronic underfunding. Waffling is a classic trick, as old as time, used to avoid answering uncomfortable points whilst giving the impression of answering, but feel free to have another go, just keep it to under fifty character if possible mate. Thanks is advance.
Oh & not once did I claim to have changed the course of government policy, but you knew that I was referring to the very obvious changes in their policy & the opposing advice they gave. Another classic trick of grand standing to over exaggerate a point that was never made.
To bring Piers Morgan into it is the most insulted I’ve been in ages though so kudos on that front!!

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Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "Took me a while to get through the waffle, but I persevered & still couldn’t find where you attempted to answer the very simple points I actually made about NHS beds & chronic underfunding. Waffling is a classic trick, as old as time, used to avoid answering uncomfortable points whilst giving the impression of answering, but feel free to have another go, just keep it to under fifty character if possible mate. Thanks is advance.
Oh & not once did I claim to have changed the course of government policy, but you knew that I was referring to the very obvious changes in their policy & the opposing advice they gave. Another classic trick of grand standing to over exaggerate a point that was never made.
To bring Piers Morgan into it is the most insulted I’ve been in ages though so kudos on that front!!'"

It's not waffle it's his opinion which on his own ground he's entitled to voice, maybe he didn't answer some of your points because like most of us he doesn't have them, you seem to think you have all the answers so crack on chief and educate us, and could you kindly do it without bringing politics into it as your bitterness is plainly obvious.

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Quote: little wayne69 "Went through Cas this morning, and in a van window was a sign saying no toilet rolls left in this van overnight.'"


Just surprised there was[i actually[/i a van in the Inbred Capital.

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Quote: little wayne69 "It's not waffle it's his opinion which on his own ground he's entitled to voice, maybe he didn't answer some of your points because like most of us he doesn't have them, you seem to think you have all the answers so crack on chief and educate us, and could you kindly do it without bringing politics into it as your bitterness is plainly obvious.'"


If someone has criticism of a point, that’s fine but address the point. The poster chose to make assumptions about me rather than address any of the points I made. I’m not claiming to have all the answers, the world is not so simple that there is one or even two answers! so let’s discuss them, no matter how uncomfortable it might make people feel.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but opinion does not equal or trump hard facts. One such fact is that NHS beds have been cut to the tune of around 10,000 beds over the last decade - beds that would come in pretty bloody handy right now, don’t you think. Another one is that the vast majority of our public services have been begging for help from the government in that same period of time. Help we were told wasn’t possible; help we were told we didn’t need cos we were crying wolf. So yeah; I get pretty vexed when people attempt to take the spotlight off those who have directly led our services to be at breaking point.
That you don’t think politics has anything to do with this is astonishing in my opinion (not fact)!

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Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "One such fact is that NHS beds have been cut to the tune of around 10,000 beds over the last decade - beds that would come in pretty bloody handy right now'"


17,000 actually; along with 50,000 nurses and 20,000 police officers - all of which we could probably use about now.

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Quote: bren2k "17,000 actually; along with 50,000 nurses and 20,000 police officers - all of which we could probably use about now.'"


Just had a quick read & you’re right Bren; I was waaaay out with my figures & would like to apologise if I misled anyone (I’d like to claim I was counting the extra beds in the 40 brand spanking new hospitals we’ve been promised, but that would be a lie)!

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NHS staff have now been given times by supermarkets in which they will be able to shop which is a God send for those that have struggled to get groceries eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: snowie "NHS staff have now been given times by supermarkets in which they will be able to shop which is a God send for those that have struggled to get groceries
Agreed, it's the very least that they deserve

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Quote: BarnsleyGull "Just surprised there was[i actually[/i a van in the Inbred Capital.'"

I'm even more surprised that the 4 stacks of bricks which the van's axles were resting on were still there.

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the severity off the situation we're all in hits you harder when you know someone or related to someone who's effected by it, yesterday we had news that there was a case at my partners fathers care home, they have gone into hospital we're just waiting now if it's going to spread within, also a carer who looked after my mother yrs ago yesterday lost her father.

We're fighting something we can't see, listen to the advice and do more if you can

Keep safe everyone

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