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| You can argue if you want Scarlet but I think that ship has sailed
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| Bulls out now and that PNG Keven Appo looks like he could be a good player as an impact second row. About to hit his prime years and is available. He looks like a younger Tanginoa in build. There are a handful of Championship players worth a punt imo and he could be one of them.
I’m just throwing names about to pass the time I guess.
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| Any club run well run would not have their lossers of 600k and this year would be more if Ellis hadnt contributed.
Any organisation is judged by profit and loss.
Excuses can and are been made for ineptitude and incompetance.
Anyone can try their best but failure when that is the result is failure.
We have more debt lost our super league position and insolvent as we cannot afford to repay what we have borrowed.
Some mythical income stream from the East stand is going to solve everthing.
Well run club pops !!!!
Thank God someone has the will and means to change it.
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| To answer that I'd have to repeat all the other posts on this subject you've clearly ignored or not understood.
Maybe you have insider knowledge that I dont have but don't think so.
I'll give it a go anyway
"Any club run well run would not have their lossers of 600k and this year would be more if Ellis hadnt contributed"
600k was next to the lowest in SL. And the 600k includes non cash items like depreciation.
The balance sheet backs this up with "cash in bank"
Ellis gave us money to spend. If he hadn't given it we wouldn't have spent it so wouldn't have affected the numbers.
"Any organisation is judged by profit and loss"
You are correct. So the logic is we are better than all but one of our competitors on this judgement.
"We have more debt lost our super league position and insolvent as we cannot afford to repay what we have borrowed."
More debt - correct....and more assets too
Lost our SL position - correct. No one likes that. But we are talking about how the club is run.
We are very much NOT insolvent. You need to look up what that means
And we clearly can afford to pay the loans as 1) we are doing it and 2) the council have already given us a break on it.
"Some mythical income stream from the East stand is going to solve everthing."
Not sure why you think it's mythical. We already have income from hospitality in the Hub. So adding a new, massive, venue will clearly add more. And we have already got bookings.
No one says it'll solve everything but it gets us more money and improves scores on 3 of the 5 IMG sections....which is priceless.
"Thank god for someone with will and means" - I assume you mean Ellis? And yes I agree. Glad he's here
I'm not blindly defending. The recruitment and playing side were poor this year and it hurt us. But saying the club is run badly, with the statements above is incorrect
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| I’ve been in and out of this forum over the past couple of decades … until recently it’s had its fair share of s, but the benefit of contribution has out weighed the idiocy and odd over inflated ego…
But now it’s just full of pompous, self righteous egotists, with almost zero self awareness, with an agenda the size of the channel tunnel…
I’ve had enough!
To the normal critical thinking trinity fans who visit here… a fond farewell…
to the idiots who have spoiled the place …
Enjoy your echo chamber
I have nothing else for you!
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| Quote: PopTart "To answer that I'd have to repeat all the other posts on this subject you've clearly ignored or not understood.
Maybe you have insider knowledge that I dont have but don't think so.
I'll give it a go anyway
"Any club run well run would not have their lossers of 600k and this year would be more if Ellis hadnt contributed"
600k was next to the lowest in SL. And the 600k includes non cash items like depreciation.
The balance sheet backs this up with "cash in bank"
Ellis gave us money to spend. If he hadn't given it we wouldn't have spent it so wouldn't have affected the numbers.
"Any organisation is judged by profit and loss"
You are correct. So the logic is we are better than all but one of our competitors on this judgement.
"We have more debt lost our super league position and insolvent as we cannot afford to repay what we have borrowed."
More debt - correct....and more assets too
Lost our SL position - correct. No one likes that. But we are talking about how the club is run.
We are very much NOT insolvent. You need to look up what that means
And we clearly can afford to pay the loans as 1) we are doing it and 2) the council have already given us a break on it.
"Some mythical income stream from the East stand is going to solve everthing."
Not sure why you think it's mythical. We already have income from hospitality in the Hub. So adding a new, massive, venue will clearly add more. And we have already got bookings.
No one says it'll solve everything but it gets us more money and improves scores on 3 of the 5 IMG sections....which is priceless.
"Thank god for someone with will and means" - I assume you mean Ellis? And yes I agree. Glad he's here
I'm not blindly defending. The recruitment and playing side were poor this year and it hurt us. But saying the club is run badly, with the statements above is incorrect'"
Nice post well answered
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| You get ya sen off spookisgone.
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| Quote: lampyboy "You get ya sen off spookisgone.'"
I think you just proved his point there
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| Quote: PopTart "I think you just proved his point there'"
For a bit of balance the Australian Trinity supporter branch was not adverse to referring to those not in the MC is great section by derogatory terms.
I note he never confirmed that his loyalty included purchasing a ST. I know he would not be able to attend but I have one and I knew I could not go. The problem is that in his eyes I was less a supporter because I have never been part of the Carter love in like people like you for example.
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| Thanks spooks for one I have enjoyed reading your posts which made sense and not at all one sided and for the moment I am also out as they say.
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| Quote: lampyboy "You get ya sen off spookisgone.'"
Sums his post up nicely.
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| His post sums nothing up its just a name calling exercise for people who dont agree with his views.
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| People come and people go.
Some people go and come back pretending to be someone else (think we know a few of them)
I have no problem with any of that, but I just don't see the need for the drama queen stuff trying to make something out of your exit. If you are leaving, leave simple as that, don't try and get sympathy,that is pathetic.
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| To answer that I'd have to repeat all the other posts on this subject you've clearly ignored or not understood.
Maybe you have insider knowledge that I dont have but don't think so.
I'll give it a go anyway In answer I was relating to your post of Sat Oct 7th 7.10 pm so your remarks on ignoring or misunderstood would seem strange
"Any club run well run would not have their lossers of 600k and this year would be more if Ellis hadnt contributed"
600k was next to the lowest in SL. And the 600k includes non cash items like depreciation.
The balance sheet backs this up with "cash in bank" Depreciation means that at some time these will have to be replaced hence why they are allowed in balance sheet
To point these are the lowest amount lost clearly points to unsubstantial and not something any responsible c/o of any limited company would put to any shareholders or supporters
Ellis gave us money to spend. If he hadn't given it we wouldn't have spent it so wouldn't have affected the numbers. This was a sponsorship I understand therefore the club made the decision
"Any organisation is judged by profit and loss"
You are correct. So the logic is we are better than all but one of our competitors on this judgement. Not logical we are better than you because we lose less money ?
"We have more debt lost our super league position and insolvent as we cannot afford to repay what we have borrowed."
More debt - correct....and more assets too Incorrect any valuation carried out would mean that our indebtedness would not repeat would not meet our asset value this depreciated once they lost the super league status and incurred long standing debt
Lost our SL position - correct. No one likes that. But we are talking about how the club is run.
Rest my case
We are very much NOT insolvent. You need to look up what that means clearly you are not aware what the definition of insolvency is “if a company cannot meet its current indebtedness then it is insolvent”
And we clearly can afford to pay the loans as 1) we are doing it and 2) the council have already given us a break on it. Inconsistent and contradictory statement we cannot afford to repay the loans as we have to ask for a brake?
"Some mythical income stream from the East stand is going to solve everthing."
Not sure why you think it's mythical. We already have income from hospitality in the Hub. So adding a new, massive, venue will clearly add more. And we have already got bookings.
Must have missed that is the east stand opened? Answer it should have been we are danger of losing thee lucrative xmas income secondly income ? you haven’t taken account of the cost and a few bookings will not mean it will be a money cow its mythical until proven by facts
No one says it'll solve everything but it gets us more money and improves scores on 3 of the 5 IMG sections....which is priceless. Agree but only at a cost which now in championship is not sustainable without millionaire support that Mr Ellis will have to do
"Thank god for someone with will and means" - I assume you mean Ellis? And yes I agree. Glad he's here
I'm not blindly defending. The recruitment and playing side were poor this year and it hurt us. But saying the club is run badly, with the statements above is incorrect.
I guess we have different opinions it has been badly run, but in the clear light of day people will have to judge
We have a fantastic chance now of moving forward and that should be the aim of everyone critic and fan alike.
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| Just seen Will Dagger with the York ladies team wonder if he is now part of the York setup as per the rumours
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