Stands to reason, Trinity are usually the sacrificial lambs for an opening day fixture.

can anyone confirm that danny k is currently in the country and at the club?


questions are to put some meat on the bones of a story i heard today from a usually v reliable source

He was at the club Saturday as I spoke to him

I don't care what or where Kirmond is. If he's here come round 1 so be it if not oh well. Kirmond speculation has done a marathon these past weeks and what do we know more than weeks ago. Rock all and it's getting boring.

agree to be honest, bit bored of his saviour like staus to some too, quite why we think keepingdefensive secind rower will save the club and bring the fans in is beyond me!!

to be honest if hes the highest valued in our current situation he should of been the first assett to be stripped, and maybe try and keep players who were more likely to get bums on seat rather than please the die hards, ie sell kirkmond and keep smith and charlie, i will now no doubt be strung up!!

I won't string you up. That's your opinion. I think he is valuable and certainly is our best asset in attack and defence. Turned into a top forward. But we know all this and there's been that much speculation and posts and it yet drags on and on going in circles creating a cyclone of nothing as there is and has been for the past month nothing to report. When there is I'm sure we'll all find out then and can have a jolly chin wag then about something that's actually happened, or not.

Think the reason why Kirmond has been kept and Tim Smith was sold,is answered on Potential signings for 2013-14 thread.
Lots of overseas names mentioned,not many domestic names mentioned.

Tim Smith wanted to leave, he did not want to stay.

He trained today.

If Tim wanted to leave, then good luck to him.
He had his contract upgraded twice in a short space of time.
If he got his head turned by Salfords £ signs and our impending financial woes.
The club did the right thing by cashing in, god knows he got slated on here enough times during last season.
Due to the decimation of our pack so far, it wouldn't have mattered if we had Cronk and Lockyer in the halves.

Why, I doubt we need to sell anymore players. The original so called financial cliff amounted to £400,000. The transfers we have made excluding Smith amount to £150,000 leaving £250,000. If we then take the guesstimated salaries and benefits the monthly savings are another £50,000. To this you would hope that the board have been able to generate some additional income or what are they doing. The debt must now be almost clear but because we have stopped receiving further updates after the initial apocliptic statement who knows or is it they don't want us to know.
I know accountants are famous for having short arms and long pockets but he and the board must start to loosen the purse strings or we currently don't have a team for Boxing Day.
The alternative of course is that because he made the initial declaration that he lets us know where we are, after all we are the ones currently expected to fund the club.

At the end of the day its a short career, money talks.

Did it matter if he wanted to stay because I did not hear Poore, Aiton and Cockayne ask for a move but they have gone. Smith was just someone we could liquidate quickly for cash with a team willing to take on his salary. I guess if we could have arranged similar deals for the three above at the same time they too would have gone. I would also remind you that Smith was under contract therefore we must have given Salford permission to talk to him or they broke the RL poaching code.