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Personally I think there is no way 2 clubs can expect to play in SL in the same stadia , the RFL would instantly be wanting one club to become a feeder for the other
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'That is why no amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party.... So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin':23909.gif |
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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "I still do not see this 'untapped' potential in Barnsley. It's football first, cricket second and everything else is irrelevant. Unless 'Barnsley' is in the name, why would the most parochial people on earth watch Wakefield?
I remember an article in a programme from 15-20 years ago where a club director wrote how Belle Vue needed massive improvements or a whole new ground built. We knew then, we know now. You can guess which director that was.
All in all, you can never trust the Tories. I'll stop myself going further with what I'd do to his next curry!'"
It wrankled that that fat mess of a man was in control of our destiny and now he's shafted us his huge slug of a frame seems even larger |
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| Quote: bigalf "But they fell for Yorkcourt's (as it may turn out to be) "Pie in the Sky"'"
2 choices - agree to share at Glasshoughton and give Castleford the franchise on a plate leaving us in NL or gamble on Newmarket which could of come off or leave us in NL. Easy choice to me.
I'm waiting for the official announcement that you have secured all the funding (I guess around £14m) to build Glasshoughton and not just land on which you can borrow £2m against to enable you to submit a detailed planning application.
We are in the clag but I'm not sure you are home and dry yet. It may be over for us but I hope for you're sake your not being led down the garden path also. |
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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall"
"I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg |
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| Quote: Schunter "It wrankled that that fat mess of a man was in control of our destiny and now he's shafted us his huge slug of a frame seems even larger'"
That's no way to talk about Sir Rodney!  |
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| Quote: Sandal Cat "
I'm waiting for the official announcement that you have secured all the funding (I guess around £14m) to build Glasshoughton and not just land on which you can borrow £2m against to enable you to submit a detailed planning application.
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£11.5m, approx. |
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| Quote: Fully "£11.5m, approx.'"
£11.5m secured or build cost ? |
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| Quote: Sandal Cat "2 choices - agree to share at Glasshoughton and give Castleford the franchise on a plate leaving us in NL or gamble on Newmarket which could of come off or leave us in NL. Easy choice to me.
I'm waiting for the official announcement that you have secured all the funding (I guess around £14m) to build Glasshoughton and not just land on which you can borrow £2m against to enable you to submit a detailed planning application.
We are in the clag but I'm not sure you are home and dry yet. It may be over for us but I hope for your sake your not being led down the garden path also.'"
I don't think we have the funding to build the stadium, although the deals with Metrel and Probiz do have stadium naming rights included, but I wouldn't expect this to be into the millions.
We are nowhere near home and dry. We have been led up the garden path before, and I think we are being now. It's just that your garden path has led to the edge of the cliff already, whereas ours seems to be a bit longer. |
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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall"
"I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg |
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| Quote: Sandal Cat "2 choices - agree to share at Glasshoughton and give Castleford the franchise on a plate leaving us in NL or gamble on Newmarket which could of come off or leave us in NL. Easy choice to me.
I'm waiting for the official announcement that you have secured all the funding (I guess around £14m) to build Glasshoughton and not just land on which you can borrow £2m against to enable you to submit a detailed planning application.
We are in the clag but I'm not sure you are home and dry yet. It may be over for us but I hope for your sake your not being led down the garden path also.'"
I'm sure we have not got the full funding at the moment, and it could all go wrong for us but I all I can do is hope we are safe.
Unfortunately for you it's been a gamble your BOD took (egged on by others who had other motives) and it looks like they have lost. |
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| Quote: Sandal Cat "£11.5m secured or build cost ?'"
Cost of the stadium. |
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The clubs statement today should have mentioned plan B to keep things positive.
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| Quote: bigbadcat "We all have our opinions on what could have been done better be it management, or ground location or the whole lot, but one thing sticks out like a sore nose in an booty factory ,is that on this forum some supporters are at best fickle !
Did anyone expect anything else, as a Trin fan we need to keep on! We don’t do anything the easy way we never have so why start moaning now you’re only providing the smiles for those that wish to gloat.
At present we are still in SL we still have a ground and a team to take to the pitch come the new season, I did in the end buy a season ticket along with shirts for the family and will do so as long as its Wakefield Trinity Wildcats !!!!!(Dreadnoughts ) as I have done for a lot of years.
Thanks to those supporters from other clubs who wish us well and mean the best cheers.
As for my opinion on why we got to this point well were to start.
Come on the Trin ![]()
Good post!
Does it matter who's to blame for this situation? The fact is we're in this mess and, as supporters, our support is more important han ever. Next season is our last at BV and I'll be at as many games as possible to see the old place off in style - I hope it's packed every match. And wouldn't it be great if we turned over a few of the of the teams whose smug / arrogant / downright pig 5h1t thick supporters have given us grief over the last 12 months. Wouldn't it be even better if we finished in a reasonable position - above some of the so called superior teams in SL. And then, wherever we're playing in 2012, and in which ever league, surely we're all still Wakefield Trinity supporters. We need to get behind the team not desert it just because (if) we're not in SL. I'm staying strong, staying positive and keeping on supporting my team, the team my dad supported, the team my great granddad played for. Come on the Trin!!
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| Quote: bigalf "Unfortunately for you it's been a gamble your BOD took (egged on by others who had other motives) and it looks like they have lost.'"
I wouldn't be so sure. Let us assume that apart from the stadium issue, we both tick more or less the same amount of boxes. If we then look at the stadium issue as what goes on top of that, which will the RFL prefer:
1. A Super League quality stadium, as part of the Plan B that the RFL wanted last time, in a county with no current Super League presence, with a fully-funded Newmarket development still a likely outcome; or,
2. Castleford in exactly the same place as they were, with fines for crowd trouble and homophobia.
I would put our bid above a Cas bid. We have to remember that the RFL look at all of this in very different terms to fans, and they might just see a glossy stadium for Wakey, even if it is sharing with a football club. On paper, with a move to the Plan B, I think our application is better. Why is a Wakey application, based on a Super League quality stadium, worse than Cas's bid, as things stand at the moment?
If Cas get the funding and start building, I would have to concede defeat, but I wouldn't get too cocky just yet if I was a Cas fan, and I wouldn't get too pessimistic if I was a Wakey fan (although the mood of the day is gloomy). |
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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall"
"I can tell you the atmosphere was extraordinary at Wheldon Road on big days. The ground held around 15,000 people, every one of them close to the action on the field and the noise would be enough to send a rumble through the town" - Malcolm Reilly "Reilly - A Life in Rugby League":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39793.jpg |
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| Quote: Slugger McBatt "I wouldn't be so sure. Let us assume that apart from the stadium issue, we both tick more or less the same amount of boxes. If we then look at the stadium issue as what goes on top of that, which will the RFL prefer
Point 1 - The RFL have been down that road with you before at Barnsley. At the time off application (March?) and award (July?), even if they felt you had funding for 2 stadiums, there will be no guarantee of one being built as Wakey will still be going through the planning process, that's providing of course Yourcourt have not cut their losses and called it a day.
Point 2 - Cas will have full approval and may even have started some construction. As for the rest if they can prove certain systems are in place I see no problem. The club has been punished once.
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| Quote: bigalf "Point 1 - The RFL have been down that road with you before at Barnsley. At the time off application (March?) and award (July?), even if they felt you had funding for 2 stadiums, there will be no guarantee of one being built as Wakey will still be going through the planning process, that's providing of course Yourcourt have not cut their losses and called it a day.
Point 2 - Cas will have full approval and may even have started some construction. As for the rest if they can prove certain systems are in place I see no problem. The club has been punished once.'"
Yes, but you would have to prove that you can deliver the stadium you have planning permission for? Cas know they need full planning permission before they can realistically include it in an application, but won't they have to prove that they can deliver it, as the planning permission could be seen as just a smokescreen to hopefully buy you another three years in which to build it. Whereas Wakey's application would be based, I assume, on a tenancy agreement to play at a stadium that is already built and would fulfil the quality criteria.
I'm not saying that things look great, but it is too tempting to think that all is doomed on the Wakey front, and all is rosy on the Cas side. On paper, the Wakey application would be better, as it would be based on a stadium that is already built, and we all know how the RFL like things to look good on paper, rather than reality.
There's a lot of water to travel under both bridges yet, and I wouldn't write Wakey off, and I wouldn't be buying in the champagne just yet. We were both warned that we had to be in Super League quality stadia by 2012. We will be. You probably won't be. |
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| So its ok for leeds to build on a stand to block locals out on a estate but we cant build on a hole old pit site  ! JOKE ! |
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