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Makinson certainly showed why he is in the England squad.
Great try when he leaped above Jowitt and TJ to get the ball on the full.

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I'd like to refer to the OP to this fixture last year in the Super 8's when Mr Grix didn't deal with the ball in the in goal area...... icon_rolleyes.gif eusa_whistle.gif

So do me a favour and give Max a break..... icon_razz.gifRAY:

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Quote: BarnsleyGull "I'd like to refer to the OP to this fixture last year in the Super 8's when Mr Grix didn't deal with the ball in the in goal area...... Quite agree.

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I think both Jowitt and also TJ had fairly average at best games and I fully expect Jowitt to sit out a few weeks and rightly so.

The thought that TJ is an injury or 2 away from lining up against Kiwi or Australian international players in an England shirt frightens me. As good and exciting as he is going forward his decision making and positioning in defence is poor at best. Worryingly it doesn’t seem to be getting better.

Neither of these lads though I feel we’re responsible for the loss. The respective benches changed the game. The Trinity interchange doesn’t really change the game up. Like for like players come off the field and enter the field.

When the Saints rotated they brought something a little different from the lads they replaced and it took us a little off guard and the damage was done in that second 20 of the first half.

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Jowitt didn’t have a great game but it wasn’t purely down to him that we lost, he had a few other comrades who were just as much to blame. He shouldn’t be thrown under the bus by Chester and dropped for Grix based on one game but i’d bet Good money thats exactly what happens.

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The saints tries came off our inability to stop the offload with 3 men in the tackle and three kicks we simply did not compete for

The game management was not great either with the wrong players ending up with the ball on the last tackle on more than one occasion. Last week at Hull we built pressure with repeated sets by forcing numerous drop outs, but tonight we just didn’t seem to have the patience/execution to do the same.

Chester clearly wasn’t happy and was frustrated by the performance which is understandable in that two bad spells allowed saints to score most of their points

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Quote: jonh "I think both Jowitt and also TJ had fairly average at best games and I fully expect Jowitt to sit out a few weeks and rightly so.

The thought that TJ is an injury or 2 away from lining up against Kiwi or Australian international players in an England shirt frightens me. As good and exciting as he is going forward his decision making and positioning in defence is poor at best. Worryingly it doesn’t seem to be getting better.

Neither of these lads though I feel we’re responsible for the loss. The respective benches changed the game. The Trinity interchange doesn’t really change the game up. Like for like players come off the field and enter the field.

When the Saints rotated they brought something a little different from the lads they replaced and it took us a little off guard and the damage was done in that second 20 of the first half.'"


No not rightly so. Seasoned professionals are just as capable of having an off day but don't get dropped, don't see why Jowitt is any different.

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You can't have it both ways.
When Grix made mistakes everyone called Chester out for not dropping him for wonder boy Jowitt.
Now Max has made mistakes it's unfair if Chester drops him.
He can't be immune. That won't do his development any good at all.

Both bring positives to the team. It's a difficult decision for Chester.

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Poptart .. perhaps Jowitt ( young player) should be given the chances Grix ( experienced player) has had over the last few seasons . I really don’t understand the dropping of young talented players .. how do they learn from their mistakes ? Any frailties Max or TJ or anyone else has needs Chester to coach and help them sort them out .

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I don’t get the Grix knocking he’s a class player and we’ve missed him this season.

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Quote: PopTart "You can't have it both ways.
When Grix made mistakes everyone called Chester out for not dropping him for wonder boy Jowitt.
Now Max has made mistakes it's unfair if Chester drops him.
He can't be immune. That won't do his development any good at all.

Both bring positives to the team. It's a difficult decision for Chester.'"


That's not my point. Grix was awful in the Super 8's last year, yet played 6 matches and Jowitt only one (Cas away). A lot of people kept saying Grix deserves to make up for his mistakes game by game, I think Jowitt deserves the same courtesy no?

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Quote: Wakefield City "I don’t get the Grix knocking he’s a class player and we’ve missed him this season.

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No we have not.

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Quote: Willzay "No we have not.'"


Well sport is all about opinions, I like Grix and thought we played better last season, with Grix in the team.

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Quote: Willzay "That's not my point. Grix was awful in the Super 8's last year, yet played 6 matches and Jowitt only one (Cas away). A lot of people kept saying Grix deserves to make up for his mistakes game by game, I think Jowitt deserves the same courtesy no?'"


Yes I do agree with that.
I've liked him at full back and Grix days are numbered so I'd favour Max but he has had two games with errors now. The sin binning at Hull would have cost us against a better team.

In terms of missing Grix (on the other post)...... We have definitely missed him in attack. I think we'd have scored some of those early chances yesterday with him.
....... but equally we may not have been as steady at the back.

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I agree Grix's days are numbered. Jowitt will grow with experience and I would like to see him get that in the remainder of the 8s against the best teams in the comp.

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