Easy there Tiger. Tonight and the Salford game have been far from ideal but we haven't beaten all those teams by luck. Still plenty of time for CC to get us back on track.

Tonight we were missing Moore, Kirmond, England, BJB, Jowitt, Gibson. All first 13 players. No excuse for the tackling mind, but let's not forget, most other teams have had several injuries which long term has meant they are not as tired as we are in general.

There is definitely a risk of what you say happening, but we have the talent in this team to get back to better performances and banish those thoughts.

They did exactly the same to us at the jungle. We were in a serious injury crisis but the same depleted Cas team had managed to beat Widnes away and Shudds at home in the previous games but came unstuck against a team who we thought were going to roll over. I just wonder if you turned up thinking it would be a win. On the bright side you won another against the head so lighten up you've lost two on the trot but are still in the top 8.

Agree with all that. I knew that when we had a couple of poor performances some people would be staring to think the worse, I suppose it's natural being a Trinity fan. Like you say there was some crucial players out tonight so no need to dread the absolute worst but we need to turn things around with a win quickly to stop it becoming a habit. We've really played some good stuff, as well as manning up when we haven't since CC came on board. For it to be all a fluke & suddenly become last years team, nah it doesn't work like that imo. Lets be honest nearly all teams have gone through phases like this and some worse.

Going in I thought if we could cut down on the penalties/silly mistakes, get the forwards to lay a platform and work for each other, we'd be alright but unfortunately non of that really happened. We knew before hand that if you give Campese & Kelly time on the ball they'll make things happen but we didn't get a grip of them all night. Lethargic in the forwards, no platform for the halves and silly mistakes all around killed us.

For me Jowitt missing stuck out like a sore thumb. Hall just doesn't seem to have the confidence or tactical knowledge to play Fullback. Don't know if Tansey is on loan or what but I'd have played him tonight if possible. Even though Kirmond's been in the bin more often than not lately, I think we really missed his leadership, no one else stepped up to the plate that's for sure. England's always a big miss down the middle when he's out. Although we've played well at times without him, we simply don't look the same team without Moore. The sooner he's back the better.

The team and coach need to have a good look at themselves and think how they want the rest of the season to pan out. Get together as a group, work like hell for each other and get back doing what they did the past few months and we should make the 8. Let these wins effect their confidence and start pointing fingers & blaming each other and things could unravel and we could end up in the bottom 4 and non of us need that headache.

I cannot think of one club that at some point this season has not gone through a bad patch with the exception of Leeds whose whole season could be described as bad.

By my reckoning Scott Moore still has two more matches to sit out which are Huddersfield and Leeds. Winning those two would see us in the eight.
He then returns for the last four matches against Saints, Wigan, Catalans and Cas, all much harder matches to win on paper.
We really miss Moore but we need to find a way to win without him in the next couple of games IMO.

You looked like Leeds. As if everyone is knackered and no-one has any confidence either in themselves or each other.

Moore is back for the Leeds game.

Shockingly bad in pretty much every aspect; refused to contest high balls, never laid a glove on Campese and let Kelly have all the time in the world to set up their plays. And as usual, we offer Dixon a lifeline when he's in the wilderness - they'll think he's good for a few more games again now.

Christ knows where a performance like that comes from, but it may well have consigned us to the M8's, which is ridiculous given the run we've been on; it was good while it lasted, but as usual, it didn't last long enough.

Good point about Dixon. The guy is quick but will never be a Super League standard player while ever he's got a hole is a5se. They brought him back from the 3rd tier because Webster knows we're the only club in the comp where he's an asset. He'll now be bundled off back to the outer limits because all other teams know how to exploit his inherent weaknesses.

ok so we have some players to come back and the sooner the better. I have no idea how a squad can turn out a performance like that. It can still be salvaged but only with very hard work. I see that clubs who are likely to be involved in the middle 8s are adding to their squads already. Going to be interesting.

A Wembley final would trump any amount of league points.

It's been nearly 40 years since we played there last and a fair bit longer since we won.
On the basis that we are unlikely to win SL, the cup is our only prospect of winning something and if
we could beat Shudds in the cup, it would mean just one more win to get to Wembley.

Although, after last night (and the Salford game), the dream looks as distant as it ever did, I would still trade league points
for a chance of cup glory.

Wembley Final wouldn't trump the league points if it meant being relegated to me.
Securing top 8 is a massive step to me.

Wembley with 8th place and not progressing, that's more than fine. Even a semi is fine.
but Wembley and middle 8 with million pound game isn't worth it to me.

I would generally rate a semi as a lot higher than fine.

Finish 8th and don't progress. Knocked out of cup by Huddersfield. If offered I would take that scenario now. Hated Middle 8's and despised MPG.

Yep a top 8 for me. I have only been to Wembley twice and its no place to go and loose. However survival and a Wembley trip would be welcome providing we don't put in a shift like we have over the two games.