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| Quote: Dreadnaught "I think some are missing the point here. The older ones are looking at this from the "I remember before we were the wildcats" standpoint and hate the name. If I remember rightky didn't the name come from a competion run in the schools. Where are all the kids, they are supporting either the Leeds "Rhino's" or Cas "Tigers" because A) they have had more sucessful sides and B) they offer a lot more in tems of engaging with the kids. Wakefield have no budget to work with, offer very little on a matchday for the kids, have mickey poor facilities etc etc... If we move to a new stadia, If we can offer a better family experience, then, you would see the benefit of the Wildcats tag. It's kmall in the marketing. Trinity means nothing to the young ones i'm afraid. There are a few exception to that, but not many.'"
This isn't the point. The point is that Leeds were Leeds and Cas were Cas. We were Wakefield Trinity. Their names aren't being changed just "enhanced". Ours is being changed slowly but surely. Trinity for me.
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| May be wrong here, but I can't remember the 'Northstanders ' chanting 'Wildcats' .It is usually 'Trin'.
Many of them will surely have grown up with the 'Wildcats' , but interestingly stick to tradition.
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| Guess dewsbury trinity will suit everyone then.
As soon as Wakefield trinity leaves Wakefield without a specific return date, it ceases to be Wakefield trinity as far as I am concerned.
Wakefield til they die!
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| I'd rather we go with Wakefield Trinity as the official name, with the "Wildcats" as some kind of juniors membership club.
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| Quote: milopolly "May be wrong here, but I can't remember the 'Northstanders ' chanting 'Wildcats' .It is usually 'Trin'.
Many of them will surely have grown up with the 'Wildcats' , but interestingly stick to tradition.'"
There are a couple of "songs" including the "Wildcats" name, makes me cringe.
"Trinity" is the name which exudes both history and class, enough said.
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| The Wildcats thing has always been cheesy, and I would get rid if it was up to me. However I guess they see it as a way of reaching out to younger fans. Atleast the badge has improved the last time it was redesigned.
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| When my children were smaller, I took them to see High School Musical On Ice. I was wearing a Wildcats coat, our Wildcats, not realising that it was also the name of the team in High School Musical. I got some funny looks that day, and it was pre-Jimmy Savile! That's enough reason for me.
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| I doubt we will be changing anything because I read that we still have a year left on our Current supplier contract. I thought this was ending this season but apparently not , so I guess we will have to put up with shirts where the sizing could be brought to the attention of the trading standards.
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| I have grown up with the Wildcats name, and quite frankly I can't stand it.
Wakefield Trinity gives the fans a sense of pride as they know what the 'Trinity' means and the history behind it.
As already stated, use the 'Wildcats' logo as a marketing scheme for the younger fans. Create it as a kids membership with the chance of prizes like meeting players, becoming mascots, signed photos and fun days etc.
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| With all the other stuff going on I'd say that the Wildcats tag is the very least of our worries. As long as Wakefield and Trinity are in the name you can stick anything else in you like for me.
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| Wildcats is a god awful name and whoever chose it originally wants shooting.
Having said that, the Rhinos name has worked tremendously at Leeds. Kids, especially, associate with the name and the mascot. Ronnie the Rhino is a big marketing plus for Leeds and helps engage loads of kids.
However, that's partly because Leeds got it right from the start. The badge, the mascot, the branding, the merchandise, all of it was good from the start and stayed consistent.
But also Leeds spend a lot on marketing and on supporter engagement and crucially spend a lot on the staff responsible for these things.
For example, the last week or so at Headingley has been:
Friday - Home game v Salford - att 14,000 - 200+ dancers from recent Rhinestones dance camp at half time plus the usual amateur teams. Plus Armed Forces Day featuring Royal Marines band and Army v Navy teams.
Sunday - Children's Day - various activities and entertainment on all day including kids RL, football and cricket tournaments. Attracted approx 6,000 people to Headingley.
Monday - Coach Education workshop at Kirkstall. 30-40 amateur coaches present.
Tuesday - Rhinos Touch Rugby session - 30-40 paying participants
Wednesday - Sponsors Day - various activities including participating in Rhinos training session for sponsors and their families
Thursday - Sinny's Club (for members aged 12-16) event - attracted 60-70 kids plus parents
Sunday - Home game v Catalans - att 15.5k - hundreds of u8 players on the pitch pre-match and half time.
Now that's obviously not a normal week for Leeds but it illustrates the effort Leeds puts in to both their brand through the mascot and other aspects, and engaging with people to get them in to the ground and hopefully coming back again.
Until a club puts that kind of effort in, it doesn't really matter that much what you're called, it won't make much difference.
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| Totally agree Him,
You've got to win the hearts of the young kids and they'll pay you back 1,000 times over during their time as a lifelong fan.
It doesn't happen by accident
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| Quote: Him "Wildcats is a god awful name and whoever chose it originally wants shooting.
Having said that, the Rhinos name has worked tremendously at Leeds. Kids, especially, associate with the name and the mascot. Ronnie the Rhino is a big marketing plus for Leeds and helps engage loads of kids.
However, that's partly because Leeds got it right from the start. The badge, the mascot, the branding, the merchandise, all of it was good from the start and stayed consistent.
But also Leeds spend a lot on marketing and on supporter engagement and crucially spend a lot on the staff responsible for these things.
For example, the last week or so at Headingley has been
Exactly right , compare and contrast.
Do we even have the face painting anymore , or was it too expensive?
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| Quote: The Avenger "Totally agree Him,
You've got to win the hearts of the young kids and they'll pay you back 1,000 times over during their time as a lifelong fan.
It doesn't happen by accident'"
Thats the bottom line mate, it would be interesting to know the percentage of fans who stuck with the first club that they ever attended as a kid for a home game. i suspect it would be massive.
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| Unfortunately the bottom line is profit and loss. We don't fair well there so the marketing budget takes a hit.
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