Too many want to be 'friends of the stars' than to realise that while some will stay a while, most will be gone tomorrow, but the club, hopefully, will always be there.

dont know jay just giving my opinions based on how i see it as im sure you do

Agreed, and I don't think I was refering to any poster in particular (I see posts and opinions rather than names!), some of our supporters can be very frustrating!!!

(And it's very amusing, over the years, to see how 'pally' some were with McNally say, then slag him off as soon as someone better came along!)

TRB is correct in all that he says on this subject.

We can thank our lucky stars that Leeds have only got their hands on Pitts. How the hell you are supposed to stop the buying power of Leeds I just do not know. Some posters on here must be brilliant sales people if they think they could have done any better than John Kear and the rest of the board.

Leeds do not have to offer players massive money, they offer slightly more money, sometimes less money and the promise of the best training facilities, play off football every year, cup finals etc etc. Ellis went for less money than we were offering.

This time around Leeds came, they saw but for a change they did not win every battle, they left ( may come back ) with only one of the three players they wanted. John Kear and the team managed to promote the rugby club to the other two, and the board resisted the massive leeds cheque just to roll over, not an easy thing to do. I mean why would a player not want to play for Leeds or a St Helens.

It is a tough battle for clubs like us to keep our players. Just go and watch our under 18`s. I went to the home game against Hudds. there was a bigger than usual crowd as Leeds, Wigan, Bradford, Saints, Huddersfield, Warrington and Hull KR all sent ` scouts ` to look at our boys. I mean Trinity at the top of the Under 18`s `league, we can`t have that they do not have a youth set up, lets go and sign their players. Thats not the end of it as it turns out that the agents have started to notice our young boys. They have a job to do I know but one agent has approached 8 of our under 18`s and offerd to represent them for free for two years if they sign with him for 5 years. He told all of them not to sign the contracts we had offered them and said he had a club who would take them for more money. So you have to think that the club in question is a bit concerned by there youth policy and has got said agent to do a job for them. I understand that 3 or 4 of those boys told the agent to sling his hook and have signed with us, no doubt we will loose a couple, but thats life.

So how the hell would you have kept Pitts. We put a contract to him, he did not want to sign it. No doubt John Kear valued him as a player but has to work within our wage structure and budgets, maybe Leeds offered him more money, I doubt it, I think a deal between Pitts and Leeds will have been agreed ages ago, and no matter how much tweaking of our offer was done would not have made the slightest bit of difference.

FFS The club have been trying to sign Jay all season and he chose Leeds. He is a young kid with his career infront of him and made his choice. When Wakey supporters ask him why he is leaving he may think he has some how let us down and obviously said things like ' I love Wakefield and I want to play for them but I have been forced to leave'. He isn't going to say ' I am not bothered who I play for I will do the best for myself. I have the chance to join a better club for more money'

When did that happen?!

It was either here or 'the other place', I can't remember, but some were quick to turn the knife after singing his praises not too long before.

Quite frankly I'm sick of the stupidity peddled on these forums. Sure folk are entitled to an opinion, but freedom of speech has never been about the right of people to peddle idiocy as fact. This mentallity of "I say what I like and I like what I bl**dy well say" is destroying our club IMHO. It's fine to do it to other fans, trolling whatever you call it, it is all part of the banter but to continually bad mouth your own club for things totally out of it's control just baffles me.

All the moaners on here should show their hand IMO, have they ever run a RL club? If so names and dates please. Tap room gossip is fine and I have no issue with that except when it's dressed up as fact which it rarely is. Running a club is very complex and very few on here ever know the full story, personalities, financial pressures, square peg in a round whole etc etc - it's never as simple as it's painted on here.

We are one of poorer SL clubs but by no means the poorest at present and whilst we can cope with the rest due to good management we can't resist the real big clubs who are currently Saints and Leeds. It's not just money it's about success - and against these two we will always struggle.

Instead of continually moaning just be thankful because it could have been worse and I wouldn't have been surprised to see Snitch (and it was definitely on), Atkins and Ferguson at Headingley next year.

If you all listen to this poster and posters like TRB and PB and you should, they tell you all you need to know even if it's not what folk want to hear.

With all respect to Jay and good luck to the lad, Thank god Leeds havent signed Dale Ferguson (yet... ) now that is a lad with a bright future!!

right im fed up off pussy footing around this jay wanted to stay but was told he would not get a contract if folk wanna believe he ran off to Leeds then fine some hear one thing some another sometimes though the horses mouth is more reliable.

you dont know the full story

Which storey the true story or the sob story.

FFS Mutts lighten up, the club is still in Wakefield and at the end of the day that matters the most.

I'm confused. When did Jay Pitts to Leeds become the equivalent of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid?