Huddersfield should have gone years ago after being bottom of the league year after year.
When did Wakefield finish bottom ?

Didn't Wakefield only get into Super League on the promise that they would build a new ground or re-develop Belle Vue, and until that happened they would play home games at Oakwell?
12 years later we are still waiting for this to happen.

Too many players with their heads elsewhere I am afraid.

That promise still stands, no one put a date on it

Yes, sadly thats true and untill we get sorted one way or the other thats how it will remain.

Now we can all blame JK TR the RFL or Noddy but the fact remains the players are not "on the ball" and who can blame them.

Nail and head MC Wildcat!

Well I can. They are professional players. If we get a franchise and they're good enough then we'll look at keeping them. If we don't get a franchise and they're good enough other clubs will look to sign them. The ones we don't deem good enough may still get contracts elsewhere, others will drop down to the Championship either with us (if we dont win a franchise) or other clubs. WTW is not the be all and end all for these players.

I did not go today. But on paper 11 tries scored through the centre and wing channels speaks volumes. This has been the case all season. We should have looked at being better in this area by now.

I don't know if anyone is interested, but I'm still behind Kear, and hope that he is still here next season, Super League or not.

I am interested to hear your reasoning why he should stay and your counter arguments to the reasons a number of us think he should go.

Because I think he's got a lot out of players this season who, in my opinion, are simply not good enough for Super League. This team of players, on paper, are not as strong as any other side in the league. But yet we've still managed to turn over teams we had no right to beat. It's unfair to blame Kear for defeats like today but give him no credit for some of the excellent victories we've had.

Hey guys - credit to the fans who travelled over today, I saw a few of our fans 'sneaking out' with 10 mins to go out of boredom and your lot stayed put, Must have been awful to watch.

If you were one of the few that engaged in a dance after George's try, I must ask, Where did you learn?

Fair enough, but on the flip side we have only managed 1 win out of 5 against arguably the weaker opposition teams, so the work done in winning games against some of the other sides is wasted to some extent.

Surely you can see that the rugby we play is crap and that it is easy to defend against and that any professional rl players are capable of playing more expansive than we do - I just don't buy this excuse that the players we have got aren't good enough to play any other way. We have some experienced players who have proven they are, and some youngsters who have come from wigan and sts who teach them the right way.

Next point is the bizarre team selections and signings which to my mind has undoubtedly upset the harmony in the camp.

Then the inability to address the fundamental flaws in defensive structure.

Nobody expected us to win alot of games and losing in itself is not a major criticism, but there is no way the squad we have should be losing by some of the margins they are and that is where Kear rightly has to cop some flak.