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| Quote: wrencat1873 "I'm with you Dunkirk.
Like you, call me paranoid but... IMG will be able to engineer their criteria to fit whoever they want into SL.... you just get the feeling that we are about to get right royally shafted.'"
Disappointing attitude. Can you imagine John Minards spouting this rubbish? MC? This sort of viewpoint keeps us in the dark ages. It's far from helpful. Maybe IMG are independent? Maybe they have been given a clear brief and the best intentions are being pursued with a fully open book?
We have all moaned at the RFL for being impotent, then they do this, and still they are moaned at. Game has to evolve unfortunately and there will be some casualties.
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| Quote: BackSeatCoach "Disappointing attitude. Can you imagine John Minards spouting this rubbish? MC? This sort of viewpoint keeps us in the dark ages. It's far from helpful. Maybe IMG are independent? Maybe they have been given a clear brief and the best intentions are being pursued with a fully open book?
We have all moaned at the RFL for being impotent, then they do this, and still they are moaned at. Game has to evolve unfortunately and there will be some casualties.'"
I think with London it’s being tried numerous times and there’s just not the interest. I have no issue with London being a potential target to grow the game but this should be a long term plan to build on and progressive. Catapulting them into the top league will not and has not worked previously. I think that’s what some fans are fearing. A club who doesn’t measure up to trinity getting a spot purely on location to drive growth in an area. If over time they grow and meet the criteria then nobody could argue.
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| I don't see anything wrong with it.
IMG have no axe to grind. They are not engineering something to get rid of us.
But if we don't come up to scratch they probably will.
London isn't our enemy. We need to be a better option than Cas, Fev Bradford etc if we want to be included.
They clearly say London is a long term project too.
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| Apparently they want to change the name as other sports are using the Superleague moniker
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| Quote: PopTart "I don't see anything wrong with it.
IMG have no axe to grind. They are not engineering something to get rid of us.
But if we don't come up to scratch they probably will.
London isn't our enemy. We need to be a better option than Cas, Fev Bradford etc if we want to be included.
They clearly say London is a long term project too.'"
It must just be me that is getting a whiff of deja vu. ??
I agree that IMG are not "anti Wakefield". However, that doesn't mean that we wont be the fall guys (again).
Equally, I have nothing against London but, my 50+ years on the planet and the many attempted "re brands" of the structure and the sport in general have done sweet FA to elevate the sport and London are NOT the magic silver bullet.
We had a "golden era" when we could cherry pick RU talent with a few gold coins and through self interest and poor management, the sport languished as an also ran, wat behind the major sports in the UK.
Like it or not, we ARE one of the lower end clubs in SL and have been for most of the last 25 years, which clearly makes us vulnerable. Even the most optimistic of Trinity fans must be able to see this.
There are 12 places up for grabs and it will only take 2 or 3 clubs, who are not currently in SL to tick a couple of boxes to see us jettisoned from the top flight.
With the comments from IMG, London seems to be the first one.
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| Quote: BackSeatCoach "Disappointing attitude. Can you imagine John Minards spouting this rubbish? MC? This sort of viewpoint keeps us in the dark ages. It's far from helpful. Maybe IMG are independent? Maybe they have been given a clear brief and the best intentions are being pursued with a fully open book?
We have all moaned at the RFL for being impotent, then they do this, and still they are moaned at. Game has to evolve unfortunately and there will be some casualties.'"
Are you happy that Trinity could be sacrificed for London, York or anyone else ?
Without additional money, there is little scope for expansion and there has been absolutely no mention of this. In fact, there is more likely to be less cash from Sky (or whoever).
As for the game evolving, I dont know how old you are but, we've had numerous structure changes over the years.
Back in the 80's there were 16 top flight English sides and now we have 11 (10 last year).
So, you will have to excuse my scepticism.
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| Quote: BackSeatCoach "Disappointing attitude. Can you imagine John Minards spouting this rubbish? MC? This sort of viewpoint keeps us in the dark ages. It's far from helpful. Maybe IMG are independent? Maybe they have been given a clear brief and the best intentions are being pursued with a fully open book?
We have all moaned at the RFL for being impotent, then they do this, and still they are moaned at. Game has to evolve unfortunately and there will be some casualties.'"
It’s only rubbish in your opinion, Watching our game for the past 70 years has taught me to be cynical of our game’s leadership, especially since the onset of Super league.
No I don’t expect MC & JM to spout rubbish, but I’m sure they have considered the possibility, and do everything to minimise risks.
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| Quote: PopTart "I don't see anything wrong with it.
IMG have no axe to grind. They are not engineering something to get rid of us.
But if we don't come up to scratch they probably will.
London isn't our enemy. We need to be a better option than Cas, Fev Bradford etc if we want to be included.
They clearly say London is a long term project too.'"
Fair enough PT, but what do London bring to SL more than Trinity do. I think you’ve been around long enough to remember the start of SL, you’ll remember how Trinity were engineered out of SL.
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "Fair enough PT, but what do London bring to SL more than Trinity do. I think you’ve been around long enough to remember the start of SL, you’ll remember how Trinity were engineered out of SL.'"
I remember it well!
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| Expansion should not be at the expense of existing clubs.
How can it be true expansion if say London and Newcastle are brought in and Trinity plus one other are out.?
Expansion is maintenance of heartland RL and adding to it.
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| If you believe that IMG are truly `independent` in the sense of the usual suspects having there usual influence on decisions then I think you are extremely naïve IMO, I don`t believe it for a minute. As Dunkirk alluded to, I`ve seen too much in this game to have faith in the integrity of decisions made and that`s not just where we have been shafted, look at the the Cas relegation / Wigan points deduction postponement situation, had it been the other way around can you seriously say the same would have happened? I really hope that it`s different this time but as I say based on the history you can`t blame anyone for been sceptical.
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| London invested properly in can bring more than any club in SL. Unfortunately that will take a monumental amount of money and time to realise that.
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I’ve just read this item from the link. Perhaps we might earn some brownie points after all.
But it appears it’s not just about stadium quality
“It (licensing) was based on business plans rather than actuals. One of the challenges was that people weren’t sticking to those plans.
“We are looking at what you have actually done. It isn’t about planning to build a new stadium.”
https://www.totalrl.com/img-vice-presid ... licensing/
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I’ve just read this item from the link. Perhaps we might earn some brownie points after all.
But it appears it’s not just about stadium quality
“It (licensing) was based on business plans rather than actuals. One of the challenges was that people weren’t sticking to those plans.
“We are looking at what you have actually done. It isn’t about planning to build a new stadium.”
https://www.totalrl.com/img-vice-presid ... licensing/
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "I’ve just read this item from the link. Perhaps we might earn some brownie points after all.
But it appears it’s not just about stadium quality, but the wording is a bit ambiguous
“We are looking at what you have actually done”
“It (licensing) was based on business plans rather than actuals. One of the challenges was that people weren’t sticking to those plans.
“We are looking at what you have actually done. It isn’t about planning to build a new stadium.”
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| Quote: Dunkirk Spirit "I’ve just read this item from the link. Perhaps we might earn some brownie points after all.
But it appears it’s not just about stadium quality
“It (licensing) was based on business plans rather than actuals. One of the challenges was that people weren’t sticking to those plans.
“We are looking at what you have actually done. It isn’t about planning to build a new stadium.”
We built a sustainable business model
We built a first class academy and scholarship with clear pathways to first team football
PDRL and LDRL
We built an award winning community programme
We own our own ground
We are refurbishing the ground to excellent standards
Other than the mortgage for the ground we operate with little or no debt
Areas to develop further:
the ladies team (ready for full professionalism)
The commercial interface
The multi sport
Educational facilities
Seems good progress to me… put a couple of genuine moneybags directors and we’re flying
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