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Quote: El Barbudo "Remain uninformed and unwilling to engage in debate if you wish, that's your own choice, but please do bear in mind it's a message board.'"


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Uninformed. Oh but I do wish I were as 'informed' as you, no, really

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Quote: Wildthing "Prescatly.

Some of these boring know alls who think they have a right to preach to the
Wakefield supporters are real dullards

Dullard! An oft used term at chateau ginger bloke.
It's use here is quite apt Wildy.

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Quote: Rotherham Fev Fan "Dullard! An oft used term at chateau ginger bloke.
It's use here is quite apt Wildy.'"


Indeed it is.
A self proclaimed 'informed' Dullard no less! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: El Barbudo "Remain uninformed and unwilling to engage in debate if you wish, that's your own choice, but please do bear in mind it's a message board.'"



I'm not uninformed and I wish I were at liberty to expose some of the truths regarding Halifax's application, it would certainly send some of the indignant Fax fans scurrying and the Fax Chairman would/will/does look rather silly.

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Quote: El Barbudo "Remain uninformed and unwilling to engage in debate if you wish, that's your own choice, but please do bear in mind it's a message board.'"


There is no need for further debate the position has been more than adequately explained in numerous messages on this forum and the VT. If you can't grasp the situation aftere reading them, then there is no point in further debate.

I am with Vastman in that I am sick of ill-informed people from other clubs slagging us off at every opportunity. It was one of the reasons the championship didn't seem such a bad destination as someone else would then be the leper of SL.

Final points for you to consider, independent experts in various fields rated each application and they know considerably more about their respective professions than you or I. Your Chairman has consistently stated that we broke the rules in the last franchise, failing to acknowledge that the rule he was referring to was amended at the back end of last year after Crusaders went into admin.

His comments about our stadium were cringeworthy and as I have said before if he is a Solicitor, god help anyone he represents.

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Quote: The Clan "I'm not uninformed and I wish I were at liberty to expose some of the truths regarding Halifax's application, it would certainly send some of the indignant Fax fans scurrying and the Fax Chairman would/will/does look rather silly.'"

Ah, the old "I know but can't tell you" post.

Do you also know why the RFL told Halifax to get a case ready when Halifax were currently thinking of waiting until 2015?
Do you have the inside track on why the RFL went public in saying that, whilst Widnes were in, the Halifax bid was not dead in the water?

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Quote: El Barbudo "Ah, the old "I know but can't tell you" post.

Do you also know why the RFL told Halifax to get a case ready when Halifax were currently thinking of waiting until 2015?
Do you have the inside track on why the RFL went public in saying that, whilst Widnes were in, the Halifax bid was not dead in the water?'"



Please yourself fella, I don't really care!

But be careful how much vitriol you post because if/when the truth comes out you'll look very stupid!

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Quote: El Barbudo "Ah, the old "I know but can't tell you" post.

Do you also know why the RFL told Halifax to get a case ready when Halifax were currently thinking of waiting until 2015?
Do you have the inside track on why the RFL went public in saying that, whilst Widnes were in, the Halifax bid was not dead in the water?'"


At a guess I would suspect they were worried about both Crusaders and us and you were the insurance policy in case they weren't convinced our new owners could deliver.

I don't hear anybody from FAX acknowledging the fact that you were lucky to be given a second bite of the cherry, given that there was never any mention of this being a possibility in the lead up to you Widnes and Barrow submitting your franchise applications.

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Quote: Tricky2309 "There is no need for further debate the position has been more than adequately explained in numerous messages on this forum and the VT. If you can't grasp the situation aftere reading them, then there is no point in further debate.

I am with Vastman in that I am sick of ill-informed people from other clubs slagging us off at every opportunity. It was one of the reasons the championship didn't seem such a bad destination as someone else would then be the leper of SL.

Final points for you to consider, independent experts in various fields rated each application and they know considerably more about their respective professions than you or I. Your Chairman has consistently stated that we broke the rules in the last franchise, failing to acknowledge that the rule he was referring to was amended at the back end of last year after Crusaders went into admin.

His comments about our stadium were cringeworthy and as I have said before if he is a Solicitor, god help anyone he represents.'"

"Your" chairman?
Let me be clear, I'm a Leeds fan, I'm a neutral and just telling it how I see it.

The clear message around here is "Stop talking to us, we don't like it"

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Quote: The Clan "Please yourself fella, I don't really care!

But be careful how much vitriol you post because if/when the truth comes out you'll look very stupid!'"


He already does! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: The Clan "Please yourself fella, I don't really care!

But be careful how much vitriol you post because if/when the truth comes out you'll look very stupid!'"

Vitriol?
Don't be daft, robust debate is all it is.

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Quote: El Barbudo ""Your" chairman?
Let me be clear, I'm a Leeds fan, I'm a neutral and just telling it how I see it.

The clear message around here is "Stop talking to us, we don't like it"'"


Well if you can't see it from what's already been posted then as I said there is no point. You have even less knowledge of the position than the Fax fans and certainly less knowledge than the likes of the Clan (as far as our application was concerned).

The clear message, is were sick of going over old ground when all this has already been done to death. We as fans and the club are trying to look forward and therefore we don't want to read ill-informed comments from other fans and the Halifax chairman.

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Quote: Tricky2309 " ... At a guess I would suspect they were worried about both Crusaders and us and you were the insurance policy in case they weren't convinced our new owners could deliver.'"

At last, someone with a bit of sense.

Quote: Tricky2309 " ... I don't hear anybody from FAX acknowledging the fact that you were lucky to be given a second bite of the cherry, given that there was never any mention of this being a possibility in the lead up to you Widnes and Barrow submitting your franchise applications.'"

As I understand it, it's the other way round really, that Halifax were not going to apply this time but were encouraged to do so by the RFL.
Then, when they see Crusaders retracting their application at the very last second, they could be forgiven for thinking that the RFL have side-stepped the decision about Wakefield.

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Quote: El Barbudo "Vitriol?
Don't be daft, robust debate is all it is.'"



If debate it is then be prepared to accept that on certain important points you're wrong. I don't claim to be an insider but solely due to my whereabouts on Tuesday and the people I was in the company of, I was made aware of certain facts by people who are on the inside and I'm not referring to anyone at Wakefield Trinity.

The Halifax Chairman will no doubt go very quiet and on receiving feedback from the RFL might reflect with some regret his numerous outbursts.

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Quote: El Barbudo "At last, someone with a bit of sense.

As I understand it, it's the other way round really, that Halifax were not going to apply this time but were encouraged to do so by the RFL.
Then, when they see Crusaders retracting their application at the very last second, they could be forgiven for thinking that the RFL have side-stepped the decision about Wakefield.'"


Clearly if Halifax were the insurance policy for us, then the decision to keep us in based on input from independent experts should surely quash the whole argument. Halifax were only ever going to be in, if we didn't match up to the requirements and we did end of discussion.

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