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There’d be a certain irony if our only post lockdown win was against Cas - the only team we usually CAN’T beat.

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Quote: Willzay "There’d be a certain irony if our only post lockdown win was against Cas - the only team we usually CAN’T beat.'"


icon_lol.gif That would be funny......law of averages?!

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As ever the truth lays between PT over optimism and the bitterness of others.

What people are forgetting is that through most of CC time at the club the team has been great. Better than any team that I’ve seen at BV and that includes the 2004 team. Some of the tries scored especially by TJ and BJB have been as good as you’ll ever see in SL.

So what’s gone wrong?

Well CC has probably made some errors, opinions on what they are will differ.

However Chester’s biggest mistake has been to somehow offend Lady Luck.

She hasn’t just deserted him but given him a grade A kicking, what the hell did you do Chris?

People trot out the nonsense that injuries are no excuse, get a grip and stop being foolish of course they are.

This is most notable with the much vilified new signings, how are they supposed to cement their place when they are having to be used like sticking plasters! Come on it’s obvious.

Ditto COVID-19, I’ve no idea why we are suffering more than most but we clearly are, again it’s obvious how that affects any team.

As for a bit of luck during a game, forget it, we can’t beg a break at present.

Yes we are not playing well, yes some players are not pulling their weight, yes some of CC’s selections have looked odd to me also but then I don’t know what he knows.

Whatever the problems in the team there can be no doubt to those thinking rationally that a good proportion of it is coming from sources beyond our control.

If there were an instant fix I’d take it as I hate watching id flounder like we do at present but there isn’t. We are where we are and all we can do is dig deep and hang in there, at least for this season.

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I think we need to start climbing rather than continue digging because we are currently so deep we are losing the light at the end of the tunnel.
We can hope it is for this season only but with it starting during the last there is nothing to suggest it will be especially if we go on a budget reduction squad.

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Well, I hope that everyone involved with Wakefield Trinity; the Board, the coaching staff and the conditioning staff et all all watched yesterday's Salford/Wire semi. Salford, a club with a very similar heritage both historically and recently to ours showed just how the underdog can achieve that Wembley dream with the right coaching staff and belief in themselves.

Just recall how we met Warrington very recently in a sem-final and simply succumbed to an embarrassing defeat. salford persevered to the very end and came up trumps.

Well done Salford!

Take a lesson from that Wakefield Trinity.

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I never realised that the opposite of optimism was bitterness!

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Quote: The Avenger "I never realised that the opposite of optimism was bitterness!'"
I never thought bitterness was accepting mediocrity or being sick to the teeth of watching utter dross but you learn something new everyday

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FickelFingerOfFate think Robinson the new coach of the giants answered your Question he said you need a good conditioner and back room staff and a good spine in the team and some one who knows what the team needs to strengthen it

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Quote: MOPSEY LIVES ON "I never thought bitterness was accepting mediocrity or being sick to the teeth of watching utter dross but you learn something new everyday'"


Couldn't agree more.

I remember a football manager being interviewed when his team got promoted into the premier league, when he was asked where the target was for the season. He said we dont want to just stay up, we want to be in the top half. His money quote was "if you set your standards low, you will achieve low", and this has stuck with me for about 25 years, and I think of this every time I read the comments, and listen to people on the terraces, when they accept mediocrity all the time

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Quote: alegend "FickelFingerOfFate think Robinson the new coach of the giants answered your Question he said you need a good conditioner and back room staff and a good spine in the team and some one who knows what the team needs to strengthen it'"

You can get all them in but the fact is CC as not got the knowledge or the willingness to change

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Quote: alegend "FickelFingerOfFate think Robinson the new coach of the giants answered your Question he said you need a good conditioner and back room staff and a good spine in the team and some one who knows what the team needs to strengthen it'"

Never been the same since Geoff Evans left for Hudds

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Which is generally what you'd expect from any coach / team. But nog us.

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Quote: vastman "As ever the truth lays between PT over optimism and the bitterness of others.

What people are forgetting is that through most of CC time at the club the team has been great. Better than any team that I’ve seen at BV and that includes the 2004 team. Some of the tries scored especially by TJ and BJB have been as good as you’ll ever see in SL.

So what’s gone wrong?

Well CC has probably made some errors, opinions on what they are will differ.

However Chester’s biggest mistake has been to somehow offend Lady Luck.

She hasn’t just deserted him but given him a grade A kicking, what the hell did you do Chris?

People trot out the nonsense that injuries are no excuse, get a grip and stop being foolish of course they are.

This is most notable with the much vilified new signings, how are they supposed to cement their place when they are having to be used like sticking plasters! Come on it’s obvious.

Ditto COVID-19, I’ve no idea why we are suffering more than most but we clearly are, again it’s obvious how that affects any team.

As for a bit of luck during a game, forget it, we can’t beg a break at present.

Yes we are not playing well, yes some players are not pulling their weight, yes some of CC’s selections have looked odd to me also but then I don’t know what he knows.

Whatever the problems in the team there can be no doubt to those thinking rationally that a good proportion of it is coming from sources beyond our control.

If there were an instant fix I’d take it as I hate watching id flounder like we do at present but there isn’t. We are where we are and all we can do is dig deep and hang in there, at least for this season.'"


He's been lucky there's no relegation this season.

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I think we now know why the club prefer the non televised games. I wonder how many Trinity TV memberships will be renewed because not much to watch for quite sometime.

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Quote: vastman "As ever the truth lays between PT over optimism and the bitterness of others.

What people are forgetting is that through most of CC time at the club the team has been great. Better than any team that I’ve seen at BV and that includes the 2004 team. Some of the tries scored especially by TJ and BJB have been as good as you’ll ever see in SL.

So what’s gone wrong?

Well CC has probably made some errors, opinions on what they are will differ.

However Chester’s biggest mistake has been to somehow offend Lady Luck.

She hasn’t just deserted him but given him a grade A kicking, what the hell did you do Chris?

People trot out the nonsense that injuries are no excuse, get a grip and stop being foolish of course they are.

This is most notable with the much vilified new signings, how are they supposed to cement their place when they are having to be used like sticking plasters! Come on it’s obvious.

Ditto COVID-19, I’ve no idea why we are suffering more than most but we clearly are, again it’s obvious how that affects any team.

As for a bit of luck during a game, forget it, we can’t beg a break at present.

Yes we are not playing well, yes some players are not pulling their weight, yes some of CC’s selections have looked odd to me also but then I don’t know what he knows.

Whatever the problems in the team there can be no doubt to those thinking rationally that a good proportion of it is coming from sources beyond our control.

If there were an instant fix I’d take it as I hate watching id flounder like we do at present but there isn’t. We are where we are and all we can do is dig deep and hang in there, at least for this season.'"


Everything in your post may be true but, how the hell do you explain the utter capitulation this afternoon.
From 8 points up and sounding like we are playing pretty well. One score and we just disintegrate and against a side who have been overloaded with travel and played 3 games in 8 days ?

If ANYONE accepts that "performance" we are screwed.

There are some (very) good players in our squad and on paper at least, we look like a side that is only 2 or 3 players from being a very competitive side so, just who carries the can ?
Most sides, having lost a lead just before the break, would come out all guns blazing for 10/15 minutes after the break.
This afternoon, we did the opposite - 3 tries in 7/8 minutes.
Sorry but, while I yield to your knowledge, there IS a problem in the camp.

Most of us remember Tony "Casper" Smith losing his way and the Kear miracle that followed (with the same group of players) and although there is a whole myriad of different problems for EVERY club to deal with at the moment, it's just not happening.
If nothing is done to change course, we finish the season on 4 points and bottom of the 11 club table, saved from relegation only because Toronto failed to complete the season.

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