I'll tell thee what,I'm glad they don't play football on BV anymore,the Whinos pitch is bad and Wigans pitch is a disgrace.

Disgrace! Do you think it looks that good!!!

If that would of been our ground Hemings would have been all over it!

Have I missed something is Jason Walton in the 19 or not ?

Have I missed something is Jason Walton in the 19 or not ?

He's listed in the 19 man squad, but not the final 17 apparently.

We will ha to wait for Betts to spout on about it 'being full of potholes' which is something you don't get with a plastic pitch.

I like that BS has picked his best team rather than just pick new players.
Tupou will be great but Ashurst has looked good in preseason and deserves a starting spot.
Tupou will be quite an impact too.

Would have liked Walton to play but BS made the point that he is close.

Think Smith also has in his head who he wants to play vs Castleford, therefor certain players not being involved here to be fresh for that game. We have a big enough squad now where it is unlikely that we will see the same 17 every week, due to injuries and form and still have the players in their correct positions. He believes this will undk Widnes defence and I hope it does indeed.

Who are you thinking he is holding back? I'd only add Simon and Moore who are injured.

It worries me that our backs aside from the full back are the same as last season. We weren't good enough in the backs then and I suppose I worry it will be more of the same. Weird that Gibson is out and I thought Hall probably performed better than any of the other backs in pre-season. Maybe Brian sees him as a back up half rather than a centre but I thought he played well when he played as did Walton...

We need to trust BS although I was surprised that Arundel is ahead of Walton at centre.

Bill Tupou and Jason Walton are both big strong running centres and would have helped out with some go forward in heavy conditions against a big Widnes side.

Walton isn't big. I grant you he runs hard but on wet pitched likeit was at Fev he continually got knocked on his and ended up further back than where he started. I liked his bravey and on firmer pitches I see a place for him - tomorrow will be a day for trundlers and we have a few of those.

Walton had a good game against Fev and made yardage. He is 5ft 11 tall and 16 1/2 stone so is big/heavy for a centre and has been known to play second row in the past. I thought he'd be more of a 'trundler' in heavy conditions than Arundel...Ashley Gibson played against Fev and is one for the firmer pitches...

One of the modern games wrecking ball centres is Konrad Hurrell at 16st and 6.0 tall, very similar in size