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Quote: supercat "Not true even though Salford own his contract Tim has more of a say on where he goes. Salford are on the cap and also Tim would also put them over quota. Tim has been to two clubs in superleague that didnt work out and has had two spells with us that went well for him. Wouldnt be suprised If we were to Give him a decent contract offer but not pay a few asking Tim to dig his heels in when Salford trying to push him elsewhere.'"


Well Hull FC must have sold themselves to Sneyd then because he has moved from a relatively unknown to a key part of Castleford's successful year.

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Quote: Mr Bliss "Well Hull FC must have sold themselves to Sneyd then because he has moved from a relatively unknown to a key part of Castleford's successful year.'"


There are a number of differences between Sneyd and Smith
Smith is a proven class player as he showed during his early days in the NRL where he was Dally M Rookie of the year. Smith has also had the chance to see how being content is a major part of how he performs when playing the game. Stints at Cronulla St George Wigan and Salford have not worked out for him because he wasn't happy or comfortable within those environments. On the other hand he has seen how being settled and able to enjoy training can help is game. Add into that the management of his bipolar condition and you can understand why he would choose to stay at Wakefield rather than accept another big-money offer to go and gamble his career and health with another club.

Sneyd is a young man who hasn't suffered the tribulations of the mental condition that Smith endures, he hasn't had the crisis of confidence after making what should have been a career enhancing move that Smith has. Sneyd Will feel that the world is his oyster at the moment and a high-profile move to a bigger club, where expectations of him are higher, will still be seen by him as career progression and a step towards realising his ambitions.

They are at different points of their careers where their priorities are worlds apart

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Hull FC throw money at a lot of things, Sneyd is one of them.

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I cant see the new half back partnership at Hull working , and I hope it doesn't.

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Quote: lampyboy "I cant see the new half back partnership at Hull working , and I hope it doesn't.'"

And so say all of us. icon_wink.gif

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I think it’s fair to say Tim Smith will more than likely end up at Wakefield in 2015. He won’t be at Salford that’s for sure. Fortunately we received £125k from Marc Sneyd’s transfer to Hull FC which should offset the loss of £75k paid to Wakefield for Smith last season. I reckon £25k to Salford for Smith’s services and all parties are happy.

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "I think it’s fair to say Tim Smith will more than likely end up at Wakefield in 2015. He won’t be at Salford that’s for sure. Fortunately we received £125k from Marc Sneyd’s transfer to Hull FC which should offset the loss of £75k paid to Wakefield for Smith last season. I reckon £25k to Salford for Smith’s services and all parties are happy.'"

In all honesty I cant see us paying any sort of fee for smith. 1. Where in no sort of position to be paying a fee for any player 2. I cant see any other team in SL wanting him for next season, let alone want to pay a fee for him, as all teams are pretty much sorted in the HB department, that and he has pretty much laid his cards on the table and said he wants to be at Wakefield 3. I don't think Salford are in a position to be too picky, as they need him off there books ASAP (due to Salary Cap and Quota space) and if a deal cannot be reached he would need to be released anyway, so why wouldn't all parties just wait for that to happen?

In my eyes a fee is essentially compensation for the loss of resource, and in this situation I would say that a fee is not necessary.

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "I think it’s fair to say Tim Smith will more than likely end up at Wakefield in 2015. He won’t be at Salford that’s for sure. Fortunately we received £125k from Marc Sneyd’s transfer to Hull FC which should offset the loss of £75k paid to Wakefield for Smith last season. I reckon £25k to Salford for Smith’s services and all parties are happy.'"


When has Koukash been remotely concerned about offsetting ?

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Quote: John Gilbert Reds "I think it’s fair to say Tim Smith will more than likely end up at Wakefield in 2015. He won’t be at Salford that’s for sure. Fortunately we received £125k from Marc Sneyd’s transfer to Hull FC which should offset the loss of £75k paid to Wakefield for Smith last season. I reckon £25k to Salford for Smith’s services and all parties are happy.'"


We didn't get 75 for smith.
We won't be paying any transfer fees for any player.
And I don't believe hull paid anywhere near 125. That is of course only my opinion. The first 2 though are true.

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So will mr Smith be staying at Wakefield Daddycool.

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He said we got £125k and Hull paid £75k.
I'm glad the other bits were right though!! icon_biggrin.gif

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No he didn't? Or are my eyes deceiving me? I've read it twice....

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Quote: lampyboy "So will mr Smith be staying at Wakefield Daddycool.'"


We are trying. So many things to balance. Tim himself. Salford. Wages/budget. Agent.

Pop quiz. We put a package together that depends upon a certain number of season tickets/walk up attendances. We don't reach those figures. What then? It's a hell of a catch 22 situation

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Quote: Daddycool "We are trying. So many things to balance. Tim himself. Salford. Wages/budget. Agent.

Pop quiz. We put a package together that depends upon a certain number of season tickets/walk up attendances. We don't reach those figures. What then? It's a hell of a catch 22 situation'"


Correct, and it`s impossible to forecast ticket sales. Which is why people need to get behind the club and take advantage of the early season ticket offer, in order to secure the players we want to!

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Quote: Daddycool "We are trying. So many things to balance. Tim himself. Salford. Wages/budget. Agent.

Pop quiz. We put a package together that depends upon a certain number of season tickets/walk up attendances. We don't reach those figures. What then? It's a hell of a catch 22 situation'"


What about a separate contribution to offset his wages? I contribute to Squadbuilder, not sure if Feline could confirm whether any of the cash raised from that route is available.

I would also be willing to make a separate contribution to go towards keeping Tim Smith at the club, as he is an important part of the team as without him we were shown to lack orgainsation. Whether others would be willing to do likewise and in sufficient numbers, I don't know.

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