Also cannot see how people not getting season ticket is going to help the club they supposedly love!
They are even getting more games for their money!

Although what you are saying is of course correct, the point is, after the first 23 games, 9th and below cannot advance within the league and instead are forced to play in a relegation play off and the team in 8th at the same point could become champions.
Of course the team in 8th at the end of the season wont be champions and neither will the club that wins the 2nd group of 8 be relegated but, after 23 games IF there are 4 or 5 teams fighting for 8th spot, which has been the case in the last few seasons, many of these have to battle for their top flight survival, despite the fact that they could be 10 or 12 points better off than the bottom placed team at this point in time.
Just think back 2 seasons ago, when we finished the season with 7 wins on the bounce.
Under the new system we would be in the relegation pool and yet for a short while 2 years ago we had the chance to make the GF.
You will no doubt argue that with the same form, we could win the 2nd pool final but, it is ridiculous to have 4 top flight teams having to play in a relegation pool and of more concern, is the fact that we will very likely be in this pool for a number of seasons to come.
It's like a game of forced Russian Roulette and we all know how the eventually ends upa026.gif

What has the team finishing 9th got to play for ?
Apart from the risk of relegation, it will be like getting a "I ran in a race" sticker that they give to 5 year olds at school sports day.
Who wants a cup for being the best of the worst ?

To stay in SL the next year.

A cup for the best of the worst? Should there be no prizes outside the SL GF & CC final then?

And you can apply that whole sticker comment to anyone that doesn't win one of those 2 trophies.

The point is, if you start a season in a competition, then that is what you are competing for ie SL League Title.
There can (and should) be only 1 winner, although we already have 2, with the Leaders Shield and GF Winners.
If you start in league 1, then you are playing to win that competition.
It should be enough for clubs, to compete all season and know where they are in relation to other teams.

As for staying in SL, if you don't finish in a relegation spot ie bottom, or 2nd bottom (if there were 2 relegation spots, then you shouldn't be relegated.

If you take a look at the historical SL tables, you usually see that there are 1 or 2 teams that are poor, in relation to the others and most of the rest, broadly speaking, are pretty competitive.
Ok there may be a clear leader or, maybe 2 or 3 teams clear at the top but most of the league is competitive but, this clearly isn't good enough for the people running the game.
And bearing in mind that we have 2 teams dropping out at the end of the season, it is quite likely that the 4 teams in the "relegation" pool will be close to the 8 (in terms of points on the ladder) and yet 4 of these clubs have to play in a pool with 4 pretenders from the second tier.
You seem happy with this but, it is fundamentally wrong.

I'm happy to watch Rugby League, whatever the format. If the new structure is a failure it will no doubt be binned in a few years....Heck, if it's a raging success it will no doubt be binned in a few years too! What I do believe is the new format brings about the return of promotion and relegation with much less of the disastrous yo-yo effect.

This year the 2 clubs facing relegation are going to be hit hard & find it tough to get back into super league, but after that the remaining 12 teams will be unlikely to change often.

All clubs were in favour of a drop to 12 teams and promotion & relegation being returned. Bearing that in mind is it any surprise that the majority of clubs that voted for the new structure, which means they can finish bottom of SL year in year out and still never be relegated, happen to be those that will be in the mix at the bottom end of the table?

Most people believe, rightly or wrongly, that promotion & relegation are vital for the game in order for it to progress and stop stagnation. The new structure allows this light at the end of the tunnel yet should in theory be the most stable structure at the top end, Super League.

If championship teams can get promoted playing against SL teams in the middle 8, whilst playing at half the salary cap, then they fully deserve to be in super league & should provide good competition when their cap is doubled, this as opposed to possibly being promoted when they're better than the championship but still a long distance from even the bottom clubs of super league.

It's seriously weighted in favour of SL clubs staying where they are, after this season of course...But if the structure is stuck with & more money comes into the sport maybe in time the cap in the championship will be raised and we'll see 2 competitive leagues instead of half of one.

Time will tell but looks like an interesting format to me. Don't want to sound gloomy but In our present predicament it could be that an end of season battle against relegation will offer more excitement than playing out closed shop dead rubbers.

Can't believe these people saying "I'm not getting a ST" or "I'm gone". I would bet on the season ticket being the full set of 23 SL fixtures, just 4 games fewer. If you really don't like the idea just treat it as the full season just like before with the knowledge you would be in SL the following season........except you might not be. Did someone say they weren't getting one this season, why it doesn't start till 2015...the only difference this season is 2 relegated.

Quite clearly this SIMPLE system is to complicated for yorkshire people. See you in the Championship in 2015 when you WILL have a chance to return to SL with the games new structure

Thanks for that.
It must be really simple to pour scorn from the top of your ivory tower.
Enjoy your top 8 super, super league

I am often amazed by the inferiority complex of Lancastrians, so much so making a comment on something usually has to involve some sort of disparaging element putting down their county neighbours.

It’s very easy to understand, it’s just some people don't like it, not too dissimilar to the whinging that’s been emanating out of Leigh for the past 6 years. They couldn’t understand a brand spanking new stadium was only part of the licensing criteria and not the be all and end all.

so the 8 that are walking away from the game took the time out to come on here to vote that they walking away how strange

That's irony for you

Not really the new format starts next season. Season tickets are already bought for this year so stuck with it for another season. Yorkshire folk ain't gonna waste whats already paid for!

Too much tinkering for me