FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Wakefield Trinity > players not payed
95 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
RankPostsTeam
International Star2023No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2012Apr 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
51673_1328536363.jpg
[img:219j9o2g]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/gilly/sss2.jpg[/img:219j9o2g]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51673.jpg



Looks like a genuine cock-up. Problem is things like this in troubled times can get players in the frame of mind that "why should I give 100% when I might not get paid for it."

Even if we get the ground we aren't endearing ourselves to the RFL.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach212No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2014Jan 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

Some people think I am a schizophrenic, but they don't really know us.:



Quote: W.T.W "They have been paid accoring to the club website.

"Club issue a Statment in light of bad news" is getting to be a bit of a habit icon_wink.gif

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member6109No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Oct 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2552.jpg
KEAR OUT !!!!:2552.jpg



The main issue here is, this question.

Which is the only club in Super League, Championship, Championship 1 & 2, National Conference, Saturday League, Sunday Pub Team League who recently has had to publish news on their website in response to stories about having to fight off both a tax man attack and a players not been paid story ?

The Answer.... Wakefield Trinity Wildcats

The club which is still dreaming of a SL franchise next year and dreaming of a new ground by 2095.

To put it simple... the stories dont exactly fill the average supporter with much confidence over the clubs immeduiate future... do they ?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4809No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Nov 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15996.jpg
"I know guys that pay £25 for a facial up north" "If that season review DVD was an A-level entry, it'd fail":15996.jpg



Quote: Roonaldo6 "In all fairness what could he do ? Tell The Sun it was all false ? Even though the rumours of it been all over the players facebook pages appeared on here at the beginning of the week.'"


He could do nothing with The Sun, I think I admitted that, but his experience and contacts can help get more positive stories in other outlets than perhaps others can.

Mud sticks, again. I guess no-one can sort it out. Even that Chloe girl gets better publicity than we do…

Obviously I need to be friends with players on Facebook to get gossip these days too!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach93No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2024Sep 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



When I ran my own business the first thing that you realise is that the 1st priorityis to make sure that money is put aside every month for the Inland Revenue and the 2nd priority is that there is enough money to pay your employees on the correct date of the month.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13788
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
29100_1291104497.jpg
1/10:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_29100.jpg



Quote: 1948er "When I ran my own business the first thing that you realise is that the 1st priorityis to make sure that money is put aside every month for the Inland Revenue and the 2nd priority is that there is enough money to pay your employees on the correct date of the month.'"

All very well, but when you get a tax bill on top of the regular tax bill it becomes a problem so unless you have huge profits or a wealthy benefactor you negotiate with HMRC a plan to pay off the debt. Also the lack of player payment was a technical difficulty rather than a fiscal one.

RankPostsTeam
International Star483No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Nov 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Also the lack of player payment was a technical difficulty rather than a fiscal one.'"
]

Yep, technically they couldn't afford to.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member6109No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Oct 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2552.jpg
KEAR OUT !!!!:2552.jpg



Quote: sixtogo "Also the lack of player payment was a technical difficulty rather than a fiscal one.'"


Yep, technically they couldn't afford to.'"
]

icon_smile.gif

TRB
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10926
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2021Feb 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15993_1515231183.jpeg
[color=#400000:2dasnjxb]"Wakefields Sporting Crusader"[/color:2dasnjxb] [b:2dasnjxb][color=#FF0000:2dasnjxb]For the latest details on the Stadium for Wakefield campaign, log onto [url:2dasnjxb]http://www.swag-online.co.uk[/url:2dasnjxb][/color:2dasnjxb][/b:2dasnjxb] [b:2dasnjxb][color=#0000FF:2dasnjxb]For the latest details on the Supporters Trust, log onto [url:2dasnjxb]http://wakefield.rlfans.com[/url:2dasnjxb][/color:2dasnjxb][/b:2dasnjxb]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_15993.jpeg



Quote: Roonaldo6 "Yep, technically they couldn't afford to.'"


The money was there all along. These things are never just black and white, but merely shades of grey! icon_confused.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2410No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
46934_1276712580.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_46934.jpg



Maybe the players are on performance related pay?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach5086No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2022Nov 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
14911_1666773367.jpg
[b:3diuzizv][color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]WAKEFIELD[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]TRINITY[/color:3diuzizv] - [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]The[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]PRIDE[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]of[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#0000FF:3diuzizv]Sporting[/color:3diuzizv] [color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]Wakefield[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv] [b:3diuzizv][color=#FF0000:3diuzizv]THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS[/color:3diuzizv][/b:3diuzizv]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_14911.jpg



Quote: imwakefieldtillidie "Maybe the players are on performance related pay?'"



Bloody well should be, then we'd have plenty of money to spare!!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2209No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Why the hell would Geoff Burrow, the players union ( gmb ) chief go running to The Sun telling tales, surely a man in his position should not behave in such a immature, pathetic, irresponsible manner. I hope the club are in contact with his boss as his actions must be a gross misdemeanour. I would be in direct contact with the lawyers and looking to sue. Also should the players be running to their union with such indecent haste ( paid two days late ).

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach148No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2012Sep 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
50717_1313751150.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50717.jpg



Quote: TRB "The money was there all along. These things are never just black and white, but merely shades of grey! Why if the money was there all along, why weren't the players paid with old fashioned cheques ? At least they would got their wages then .

RankPostsTeam
International Star16No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2012Apr 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Long time reader of the forum, first time poster.

I don't want to get a bad rep, but I feel the need to make a few points.

Quote: Khlav Kalash "All very well, but when you get a tax bill on top of the regular tax bill it becomes a problem so unless you have huge profits or a wealthy benefactor you negotiate with HMRC a plan to pay off the debt. Also the lack of player payment was a technical difficulty rather than a fiscal one.'"


You only get a tax bill a) when you've made a profit and b) the tax bill becomes payable on a recognised due date which is clearly set out in law. We've got this tax bill because we owe the money to HMRC. We as supporters need to understand that the club has not been run particularly well in the past and we are now suffering for this. I think we all have to be realistic and accept if the tax is due it has to be paid otherwise the club will be hit with even more penalties and interest from HMRC which makes our position even worse.

Quote: Khlav Kalash "Why the hell would Geoff Burrow, the players union ( gmb ) chief go running to The Sun telling tales, surely a man in his position should not behave in such a immature, pathetic, irresponsible manner. I hope the club are in contact with his boss as his actions must be a gross misdemeanour. I would be in direct contact with the lawyers and looking to sue. Also should the players be running to their union with such indecent haste ( paid two days late ).'"


I don't think we can blame Geoff Burrow for stating the facts, if our club is in dire financial straights we all have to be man enough to accept this and try and work towards sorting out the issues. The players are no different to the rest of us in that we all have mortgages and bills to pay every month and if our salaries don't go in on the correct day, we all become worried as to whether the money will be received and I'm sure you are in the same position. Remember the players are just trying to protect their own interests via the gmb union.

Sorry to be all doom and gloom, but hopefully we'll get some good news on the 22nd!

TRB
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10926
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2021Feb 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15993_1515231183.jpeg
[color=#400000:2dasnjxb]"Wakefields Sporting Crusader"[/color:2dasnjxb] [b:2dasnjxb][color=#FF0000:2dasnjxb]For the latest details on the Stadium for Wakefield campaign, log onto [url:2dasnjxb]http://www.swag-online.co.uk[/url:2dasnjxb][/color:2dasnjxb][/b:2dasnjxb] [b:2dasnjxb][color=#0000FF:2dasnjxb]For the latest details on the Supporters Trust, log onto [url:2dasnjxb]http://wakefield.rlfans.com[/url:2dasnjxb][/color:2dasnjxb][/b:2dasnjxb]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_15993.jpeg



Quote: Wrencat "Why if the money was there all along, why weren't the players paid with old fashioned cheques ? At least they would got their wages then .'"


If only it were that simple! icon_confused.gif

95 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing
95 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, PopTart , kinleycat , Wildthing



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.4130859375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Ground Improvements
Slugger McBa
123
17m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Irregular Ho
3697
19m
Film game
karetaker
5148
44m
Planning for next season
Cokey
170
Recent
Recruitment rumours and links
karetaker
3510
Recent
Paladin Sports
orangeman
5
Recent
Rhinos Ladies
Swoggy Loine
7
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
43s
Pre Season - 2025
giddyupoldfe
119
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63010
1m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2505
2m
Paladin Sports
orangeman
5
2m
New Players
BigTime
102
2m
Film game
karetaker
5148
2m
Rhinos Ladies
Swoggy Loine
7
3m
Planning for next season
Cokey
170
3m
England vs Samoa
NickyKiss
135
5m
Squad contract dates
Trojan Horse
12
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Will Brough gone
vastman
2
TODAY
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Azul
8
TODAY
Rhinos Ladies
Swoggy Loine
7
TODAY
Squad contract dates
Trojan Horse
12
TODAY
Paladin Sports
orangeman
5
TODAY
Magic Weekend
Wollo-Wollo-
2
TODAY
War of the Roses
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Dual Reg
PopTart
2
TODAY
Vagana
Scarlet Pimp
10
TODAY
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
6
TODAY
2025 merchandise
18th Man
12
TODAY
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Smithers99
7
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
The Whiffy K
11
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
11
TODAY
Sky tv deals
karetaker
7
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Fantastic Mr
29
TODAY
New Kit
karetaker
62
TODAY
Memorable Games
Faithful One
8
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
giddyupoldfe
119
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
611
England's Women Demolish The W..
550
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
855
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
662
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
947
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1440
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1675
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1944
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1526
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1790
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2162
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1723
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1808
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1943
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2119
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.64M 1,333 80,15414,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
There are currently no matches to display.
Matches on TV
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024 3 England M34-16Samoa M
WINT2024 2 ENGLAND W82-0WALES W
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Ground Improvements
Slugger McBa
123
17m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Irregular Ho
3697
19m
Film game
karetaker
5148
44m
Planning for next season
Cokey
170
Recent
Recruitment rumours and links
karetaker
3510
Recent
Paladin Sports
orangeman
5
Recent
Rhinos Ladies
Swoggy Loine
7
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
43s
Pre Season - 2025
giddyupoldfe
119
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63010
1m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2505
2m
Paladin Sports
orangeman
5
2m
New Players
BigTime
102
2m
Film game
karetaker
5148
2m
Rhinos Ladies
Swoggy Loine
7
3m
Planning for next season
Cokey
170
3m
England vs Samoa
NickyKiss
135
5m
Squad contract dates
Trojan Horse
12
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Will Brough gone
vastman
2
TODAY
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Azul
8
TODAY
Rhinos Ladies
Swoggy Loine
7
TODAY
Squad contract dates
Trojan Horse
12
TODAY
Paladin Sports
orangeman
5
TODAY
Magic Weekend
Wollo-Wollo-
2
TODAY
War of the Roses
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Dual Reg
PopTart
2
TODAY
Vagana
Scarlet Pimp
10
TODAY
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
6
TODAY
2025 merchandise
18th Man
12
TODAY
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Smithers99
7
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
The Whiffy K
11
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
11
TODAY
Sky tv deals
karetaker
7
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Fantastic Mr
29
TODAY
New Kit
karetaker
62
TODAY
Memorable Games
Faithful One
8
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
giddyupoldfe
119
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
611
England's Women Demolish The W..
550
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
855
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
662
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
947
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1440
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1675
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1944
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1526
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1790
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2162
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1723
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1808
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1943
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2119


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!