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| It's a fair question.
Sometimes you have to let the coaching team develop too.
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| Quote: Little willy "So true lampyboy someone needs to take charge both on & off the field, Or this season is going to be a damp squid'"
Basically we’ve been found out in the forwards, we are soft especially when Dave isn’t playing. Only King has any go forward and he’s not a tackle buster though he does drag the game forward.
Arona - great but crocked
England - totally gone
Huby - who knows
PP - I really don’t know what’s gone on here
Hirst - only ever a filler, played more games than he’s up to imho
Kirmond - even more gone than England
Batchelor - has a poor season due mainly to injury
Ashurst - where is he?
Koppy - runs hot and cold
Crowther - dome what’s been asked of him
Anakin - what’s the point, I’m not a huge fan but he has to be a better option than Kirmond!!!!
Tangles - you have to feel sorry for him.
So on currentish form the only two forwards we have up for the fight are King, Fifita and Crowther. Not much to work with for any coach.
Not all Chester choices have been smart imo but you have to feel for the bloke.
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| Not having a go but when Chester was at H K R when he left they had 9 or 10 first team players out through injury
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| Ben Jones Bishop, runs out of the defensive line, jumps up in the air for a ball he has no chance of catching (see Salford effort) , leaves his opposite winger unmarked...result try. Or, cuts inside to help his centre who, to be honest, needs no help in many cases (not always granted) . This has been his tactic for a few seasons now, never more evident than in the Salford game. Is this coached ? I hope not.
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| What's the issue with big Dave, I know he got an injury a few weeks back but past few press conferences Chester's said 'hopefully he'll put his hand up', almost like he thinks he could play if he wanted to but can't be d.
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| Quote: Jizzer "What's the issue with big Dave, I know he got an injury a few weeks back but past few press conferences Chester's said 'hopefully he'll put his hand up', almost like he thinks he could play if he wanted to but can't be d.'"
Or is the injury worse than first thought? He was rumoured to be back for the Leeds game, but has missed another game since that one.
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| Quote: Miro "Ben Jones Bishop, runs out of the defensive line, jumps up in the air for a ball he has no chance of catching (see Salford effort) , leaves his opposite winger unmarked...result try. Or, cuts inside to help his centre who, to be honest, needs no help in many cases (not always granted) . This has been his tactic for a few seasons now, never more evident than in the Salford game. Is this coached ? I hope not.'"
Yeah and it's not like he's the most reliable guy under the high ball, especially in a crowd. For me his weakest point though is his lack of acceleration from a standing start. A big problem in defence and attack. We've seen him fail to reach the corner a few times with ball in hand and fail to get across and get even a hand on opposition wingers flying by.
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| Quote: Jizzer "What's the issue with big Dave, I know he got an injury a few weeks back but past few press conferences Chester's said 'hopefully he'll put his hand up', almost like he thinks he could play if he wanted to but can't be d.'"
Or maybe Big dave is clever enough to let any niggles mend instead of potentially making it/them worse.
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| Quote: King Street Cat "Or is the injury worse than first thought? He was rumoured to be back for the Leeds game, but has missed another game since that one.'"
Chester said they couldn't get to the bottom of David's foot injury.
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| Quote: wakeytrin "Chester said they couldn't get to the bottom of David's foot injury.'"
He had some loose bone floating in his ankle, unfortunately having had it cleaned out, the ankle flared up resulting in them having to withdraw him from the Salford game.
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| We have trouble with edge defence on both sides of the field no matter who plays there and have had that trouble for at least 4 years.
BJB seems to have no confidence in his inside defenders and for good reason because they don’t do their jobs well and don’t work as a unit.
On the other side of the field how many times have we seen TJ left in no mans land because his inside defenders have failed to map outwards from the play the ball.
It’s been a frustration of mine for season after season, it’s not the fault of an individual player but rather the team as a defensive unit.
The fact that we haven’t or can’t fix it suggests that the coaching staff don’t understand how to coach defence or are incapable of passing on their knowledge.
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| Genuinely felt for kirmo on trin tv , the lad looks dejected and looking like one too many knocks on his already bad knees
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| Quote: little wayne69 "He had some loose bone floating in his ankle, unfortunately having had it cleaned out, the ankle flared up resulting in them having to withdraw him from the Salford game.'"
Thanks for that.
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| Quote: Miro "Ben Jones Bishop, runs out of the defensive line, jumps up in the air for a ball he has no chance of catching (see Salford effort) , leaves his opposite winger unmarked...result try. Or, cuts inside to help his centre who, to be honest, needs no help in many cases (not always granted) . This has been his tactic for a few seasons now, never more evident than in the Salford game. Is this coached ? I hope not.'"
Agree 100%, Miro!!!!
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| Quote: The Avenger "We have trouble with edge defence on both sides of the field no matter who plays there and have had that trouble for at least 4 years.
BJB seems to have no confidence in his inside defenders and for good reason because they don’t do their jobs well and don’t work as a unit.
On the other side of the field how many times have we seen TJ left in no mans land because his inside defenders have failed to map outwards from the play the ball.
It’s been a frustration of mine for season after season, it’s not the fault of an individual player but rather the team as a defensive unit.
The fact that we haven’t or can’t fix it suggests that the coaching staff don’t understand how to coach defence or are incapable of passing on their knowledge.'"
But at times BJB seems to be unable to close up even the narrowist of overlaps.
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