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We could have Ryan Hall and Jason Nightingale on the wings and we still would've been caught outside due to A) fitness B) e form C) a lack of marshalling in defence and many other factors. Yes Johnstone still has a lot to learn but he is only 19 FFS and I agree with Avenger your post is OTT in that regard. Agree with your points on the other players though.

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Quote: Willzay "We could have Ryan Hall and Jason Nightingale on the wings and we still would've been caught outside due to A) fitness B) poop form C) a lack of marshalling in defence and many other factors. Yes Johnstone still has a lot to learn but he is only 19 FFS and I agree with Avenger your post is OTT in that regard. Agree with your points on the other players though.'"
As negative and as annoyed as I have been and can be, I think we all need to calm down a bit or we are as bad as the headless chickens we are criticising..that is the problem..one or 2 things go wrong and they implode! Can we have a coach please?

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Carney chose his try as a highlight of the weekend and said at 19 years old and with his physique he has the ability to go far in SL. He added that bigger clubs are likely to hunt him. I thought in difficult circumstances he did his best and we can ask no more than that

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Only the brush off he took from Shenton to be embarrassed about. Should have been in the team for weeks and maybe he would hbe more up to Super League speed.
How the hell that waster on the other wing keeps getting picked is the bigger issue.

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Quote: tamargrace "johnstone today was a joke ! try to defend ! and as for riley? ffs cas took us to pieces out wide .. total poop in defence both of them and as for lyne .. that kid is is a coward! as for kirmond ???? we are a joke team and the players dont give a shir!'"


If I felt like that I'd stop supporting and never post on here again.
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Tom Johnstone is great in attack and poor in defence. His defence can be worked on.
He was one of a very few players who looked interested yesterday, and his effort can't be faulted.

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We need to remember he is only 19 and still has much to learn. He has shown a lot of promise with ball in hand but a few frailties defensively, but nothing that can't be improved. At this level he will now get targetted so given he would be up against one of the best this week in Ryan Hall i would be tempted to leave him out of this one, work intensely on his defence for a couple of weeks then bring him back in for the salford game. We have to be careful not to destroy his confidence early on by making sure he is managed correctly.

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Quote: Theboyem "We need to remember he is only 19 and still has much to learn. He has shown a lot of promise with ball in hand but a few frailties defensively, but nothing that can't be improved. At this level he will now get targetted so given he would be up against one of the best this week in Ryan Hall i would be tempted to leave him out of this one, work intensely on his defence for a couple of weeks then bring him back in for the salford game. We have to be careful not to destroy his confidence early on by making sure he is managed correctly.'"


Pretty much what we said yesterday, spot on IMO.

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Apart from when Shenton fended him off and him and Owen went for the same high ball he didn't do too much wrong. I would be more worried about the other edge of Miller Lyne and Riley who are all extremely poor defenders and show no aggression.

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Johnstone is a young kid with bags of potential. He should develop into a very good RL player. The trouble is he needs work and coaching and he isn't going to get that our club with the backroom staff that we have at the moment.

OK you may say when Brian Smith comes he will turn things around, well I am not so sure. That shambles I saw yesterday looks too big a job for one man to do in the short space of time he has been given to do it.

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Quote: jack in the box "Johnstone is a young kid with bags of potential. He should develop into a very good RL player. The trouble is he needs work and coaching and he isn't going to get that our club with the backroom staff that we have at the moment.

OK you may say when Brian Smith comes he will turn things around, well I am not so sure. That shambles I saw yesterday looks too big a job for one man to do in the short space of time he has been given to do it.'"


Correct.

Simply not enough time for Smith - a huge amount depends on how "Senior Players" LOL react. As for the back room staff - sack who needs to be sacked ASAP.

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Cant blame Johnstone for his centre coming to far infield and leaving him with to many players to defend against and its been like that with all the wingers on that side.The lads only just made the team and is young but you can see he will be a top class winger in the future.

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Looks a cracking young prospect... A raw talent.. Plenty of time to get the detail right. Hope his future is at Wakefield not at one of the predators like Huddersfield and Warrington!

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Quote: vastman "Correct.

Simply not enough time for Smith - a huge amount depends on how "Senior Players" LOL react. As for the back room staff - sack who needs to be sacked ASAP.'"

I agree about the lack of time, the best we can hope for is that he mangages to kick some backsides and drag some desire out of them that has been missing for a long time. Nobody will be getting sacked though, Carter has said he will be working with the existing backroom staff.

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Quote: Theboyem "I agree about the lack of time, the best we can hope for is that he mangages to kick some backsides and drag some desire out of them that has been missing for a long time. Nobody will be getting sacked though, Carter has said he will be working with the existing backroom staff.'"


I think Brian Smith could make him see otherwise. Can't see Smith hanging around if he doesn't get his way. Be utterly foolish of MC to not back him considering his experience, the thing MC signed him for.

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