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| I hope everyone who saw something whether they think it to be of little significance of not informs the club because if we do not stand up individually and collective as fans of our club then this will continue to happen and ruin all the hard work many have put in to WTW. We all want an enjoyible friendly day at BV and it's up to us to ensure we let the club know when people tarnish the WTW name.
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| Where does it say Richard agar has re-signed????
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| I can only comment on what I've read on here from fans who I know have attended regularly for many years, but when these people describe the situation as akin to being in the middle of World War 3, then it doesn't sound like "a small number of incidents" to me.
I was shocked, embarrassed, and saddened by what I read last night, and expect the club to make every effort to identify and ban the culprits. This isn't the Wakefield Trinity I grew up supporting, and if it's the future, I want no part of it.
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| Quote: RebelRebel "I can only comment on what I've read on here from fans who I know have attended regularly for many years, but when these people describe the situation as akin to being in the middle of World War 3, then it doesn't sound like "a small number of incidents" to me.
I was shocked, embarrassed, and saddened by what I read last night, and expect the club to make every effort to identify and ban the culprits. This isn't the Wakefield Trinity I grew up supporting, and if it's the future, I want no part of it.'"
It was one fairly large and long running incident where we were stood that escalated as time went on. A major concern is that beer was still being served to these people despite the rising tension and continued throwing of drinks. Not sure what good emailing the club will do as I didn't know any of the people involved so how that will help them I have no idea. All in all I thought the stewards did a cracking job and the police should have been called a lot earlier than they were.
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| Well glad they are looking to be proactive over the events of last night although it does look more like locking the stable door after the horse has bolted.
This has been the first big PR mistake by the club since AG took over IMO
Quote: Wakefield No 1 "Where does it say Richard agar has re-signed????'"
Re-signed? are they giving him another 3years?
or do you mean resigned?
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| If everyone using foul and abusive language got banned from Belle Vue, we would lose at least 50% of the crowd, there were at least 20 fans within 5 metres radius of me shouting at Smith and Southern to F off back to Australia you useless pieces of S. Funnily enough they have a point.
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| Quote: Trinity Till Death "I hope everyone who saw something whether they think it to be of little significance of not informs the club because if we do not stand up individually and collective as fans of our club then this will continue to happen and ruin all the hard work many have put in to WTW. We all want an enjoyible friendly day at BV and it's up to us to ensure we let the club know when people tarnish the WTW name.'"
Exactly right, i saw a fair few get frog marched out but could not see who carried on causing trouble, otherwise i would love to blob them in.
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| Not good last night on a few fronts:
I was standing right beside the trouble in the middle section of the North Stand - right at the back. We got to the ground early ( 6.15 ) because we were expecting a large turnout and we wanted to get a decent spot. Not many Cas fans there when we arrived and the ones that were there stood in the far corner where they had been asked to. As kick off got nearer more and more visiting fans began spreading further across and before long had taken half of the stand. Chav corner and the West terrace took a while to fill up as did the East stand. Seems most wanted to take advantage of the new roof - new atmosphere. From my point of view the whole atmosphere changed when the Cas fans started chanting 'we'll stand where we want'. All of a sudden I just got a gut feeling something would happen. More and more chants and singing, all harmless, until the game actually started. Certain Wakefield fans began congregating towards the middle of the stand whilst on the other side the Cas fans were doing exactly the same. There cant of been more than 3/4 stewards then initially but within 5 mins there were another 10 or so forming a line between the fans. More chants, more singing until the opening try. I cant honestly remember which side threw the first bottle but what I do know is both sides were throwing as much as the other. Plastic bottles, plastic pint pots......whatever......its just wrong. Neither side can come out of this well. Our so called supporters were trying to get through the stewards line to reach the Cas fans whilst they were just stood yards away goading and inviting trouble. The stewards were fantastic and had it not been for them the scenes would have been horrendous. Thats a fact. Our group of 8 stayed and refused to move until one of our party was hit with a bottle and about 10 mins into the second half a glass or bottle was thrown into the roof above the Wakefield fans and shattered glass fell down over a number of people. At this point it was a no brainer and we moved away before calling it a night with still 20 mins left on the clock. It was more like a scene from the bad old days in the 80's when football hooligans would have a tear up. Nothing ive ever seen before at Belle Vue since started going over25 years ago.
This City is ours slogan is harmless. If people think this is a cause of the problem - get real.
Lets go North is a fantastic idea. The atmosphere before and just after kick off was superb. But it HAS to be 100% Wakefield fans only in that stand. Segregation is a must and we have to follow the ways of other clubs and keep opposing fans apart. Im not having this 'Rugby League Family' and its a family game etc etc. It might of been years ago but it certainly isnt anymore. Yes - its a shame but times change and unfortunately Rugby League has also changed on and off the park. Keep the away fans down either side. If chav corner is becoming an issue give the Western terrace to the away sides and let the home fans stand togther behind the sticks !
The club are really trying to turn things around and the past few months have been better than the last 10 years. In hindsight, we could have done things differently last night and I have no doubt that major lessons have been learnt but lets move on now. We cant change what happened but we can prevent them from happening again. Deal with the issues from last night and put it to bed. Get the right things in place for the visit of Salford. Away fans to be given their own area. But the North Stand must be ours - completely.
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| Quote: Captain Library "Good of the club to not sweep it under the carpet (I didn't think they would, but still).'"
lol, and then some! The RFL 'Family game LTD' probably worded the statement for us. I'm sure the Cas element of the minor incident was an unrelated Cas born 4yo playing outside the ground who threw a bottle top at a Wakey fan leaving 15 minutes early..
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| Quote: Wildcatfan "Not good last night on a few fronts
By Chav corner are you talking the area under the new small stand?
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| After queuing for 20 mins at east stand bottle bar, pre-match ( & enjoying friendly Conversation with others in line, both Wakey & Cas fans ) Iwas barged out of way by a queue-jumping tanked-up (& likely drug-intoxicated ) yob who was clearly "wired" for aggression (no colours, you know the type -some at every derby fixture ).
I am small build & in 50s so probably seen as soft target. At very real risk of being punched I confronted him & made clear to staff in kiosk what he 'd done. As he became even more wound up I suggested they not serve him & request steward assistance. After serving him (2 glass bottles of beer) they informed me they had no way of contacting stewards (& none were in vicinity - others in queue looked for them, in vain, during the altercation).
If I am charitable, the 2 young lasses serving may have averted trouble, but how come they had no back-up ( & didn't know the mobile number, given out earlier in This thread? I know they didn't, I asked).
This episode is a cameo of what is wrong:Bank holiday evening K.O. letting p@@ed up yobs in, not having support for staff, selling alcohol to these yobs, inadequate security.
On the 95 mile trip home, plenty time to reflect on whether I'll renew our season tickets for Trinity next time (fortunately, my wife stayed in her seat & didn't see the incident, otherwise decision would be made for me). I don't want the yobs to win & I love the spirit & cameraderie of RL generally & Wakey fans in particular (plus though I live down south now, Trinity's been my club since I Was but safety is a MAJOR consideration & this needs sorting urgently.
Ps: thanks for others in queue, both Wakey & Cas, for talking me into backing off from further argument (probably saved me from a thump or worse) & nursing my bruised pride.
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| If I new any of them trouble makers I would report them but they were all in plain t shirts or hoodys I have never seen them at any games before! I've heard a rumour that they were fev fans but that's just rumours isn't it...
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| Well good on the club but lets all play our part if we see trouble looming get a steward in and get it sorted this goes for both home and away fans.The need to get rid of this type of so called fan is most important.You have to ask have the Hull clubs got the right idea with derby games an early kick off so less chance of booze fueled idiots.
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| Quote: les-goose "You have to ask have the Hull clubs got the right idea with derby games an early kick off so less chance of booze fueled idiots.'"
Absolutely. My memory may be failing me here, but didn't we used to pay Fev on Good Friday in the 70's? I seem to recall that fixture being put forward because of all the agro caused by drunken fans (mostly Fev fans, of course...) having a full lunchtime on the lash.
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| Quote: Wildcatfan "Not good last night on a few frontsWestern terrace to the away sides and let the home fans stand togther behind the sticks !
The club are really trying to turn things around and the past few months have been better than the last 10 years. In hindsight, we could have done things differently last night and I have no doubt that major lessons have been learnt but lets move on now. We cant change what happened but we can prevent them from happening again. Deal with the issues from last night and put it to bed. Get the right things in place for the visit of Salford. Away fans to be given their own area. But the North Stand must be ours - completely.'"
I stand on the Western Terrace as do many Wakefield fans, why should that be changed because of mindless actions of a few. Chuck the idiots out at first sign of trouble they will soon get fed up. They need educating in how to behave . Lets get them in a classroom with their role models , say Amor , Cockayne & Aiton and be told by them their behaviour is not acceptable and is not supportive of the club & players. Making the rest of the fans pay for their behaviour by making everyone stand in North terrace is not fair.
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