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Quote: The Avenger "Commitment, motivation & desire to play for a club like Wakefield was lacking yet we aren’t judging him as harshly as Tom Linham!

Incidentally, I’d start Langi at 13 but I can’t at this juncture justify him replacing Hall'"


Surely those should have been questions for when we signed him though? Not something that we keep going back to when we have to select the team.

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Quote: PopTart "Although possibly, those fans 100 yards away with a pint can't in fact see and don't know the rules as well as the ref.'"


This made me smile, not the referee's fault, just over enthusiastic players! icon_smile.gif

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/rugby-league/64612985
Quote: PopTart "Although possibly, those fans 100 yards away with a pint can't in fact see and don't know the rules as well as the ref.'"


This made me smile, not the referee's fault, just over enthusiastic players! icon_smile.gif

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/rugby-league/64612985


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Quote: The Avenger "Not denying his quality although I’d argue just how good he was for Catalans last season

If Linham shouldn’t replace Murphy then I can’t see how you justify Langi replacing Hall who was a big part of why Murphy played so well last year

I’d play Langi at 13'"


I didn't say I could justify Langi replacing Hall, I just think Hall will be the one that misses out this week. There has been a couple of comments on the Facebook Group that makes me think he's been left out. Might add that we played Hall at Full Back against Hull (not sure why) and some of the comments afterwards was that he needed the game time (has he had an injury that we didn't know about in pre-season or something). Applegarth has the luxury of having multiple people available in multiple positions and if he feels the need to rest someone this week then he is able to without having to go so deep into his squad to find that replacement.

We went over our budget to sign Langi, I just don't see why we would have done that only to see him sat in the stands.

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Why are we taking the clubs best centre and wanting to play him in the pack i dont understand it keep our best players in there best postions will surely be best.hall and langi in centres for me.the only issue is the wings who misses out in lineham,murphy or jorge

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Very strong winds being forecast for Friday and BBC weather forecaster saying there could be some disruption to flights at Leeds/Bradford Airport so I hope Catalans take that into consideration before setting off ...don't mind if they get travel sick though, as long as they get here eusa_sick.gif eusa_sick.gif

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Quote: Luppylad "Why are we taking the clubs best centre and wanting to play him in the pack i dont understand it keep our best players in there best postions will surely be best.hall and langi in centres for me.the only issue is the wings who misses out in lineham,murphy or jorge

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Who says Langi is the clubs best centre, that’s your opinion not a fact. Now he may well prove to be the best we’ve got but at this moment in time Lynne and Hall have proven to be one of our best centre pairings for years, maybe as far back as Domic & Atkins/Demetriou

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Quote: The Avenger "Who says Langi is the clubs best centre, that’s your opinion not a fact. Now he may well prove to be the best we’ve got but at this moment in time Lynne and Hall have proven to be one of our best centre pairings for years, maybe as far back as Domic & Atkins/Demetriou'"


That's quite a statement considering they've played just 13 games together, and only won five of those.

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Quote: The Avenger "Who says Langi is the clubs best centre, that’s your opinion not a fact. Now he may well prove to be the best we’ve got but at this moment in time Lynne and Hall have proven to be one of our best centre pairings for years, maybe as far back as Domic & Atkins/Demetriou'"



Really lynne and hall best centre pairing in years they hardly ever played together i can only think you had a brain fart and thinking of lynne and topou or you think that hall and lynne where better than those too,as you say we are all entitled to our opinions. As for langi he was when fit he has been a regular starter for arguably one of best teams in the comp somthing lynne and hall havent,i like both hall and lynne and its good to have 3 top centres and yes in my opinion langi is the best

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Quote: Luppylad "Really lynne and hall best centre pairing in years they hardly ever played together i can only think you had a brain fart and thinking of lynne and topou or you think that hall and lynne where better than those too,as you say we are all entitled to our opinions. As for langi he was when fit he has been a regular starter for arguably one of best teams in the comp somthing lynne and hall havent,i like both hall and lynne and its good to have 3 top centres and yes in my opinion langi is the best'"


I like Lyne but I was disappointed with him in 2022. Thought he wasn’t up to his usual good standard.

It’s a new season and hopefully he finds his form again.

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Quote: Trojan Horse "I like Lyne but I was disappointed with him in 2022. Thought he wasn’t up to his usual good standard.

It’s a new season and hopefully he finds his form again.'"


Hate to say it, as I think he's a top player and bloke, but Reece misses out for me..... icon_cry.gif

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Quote: BarnsleyGull "Hate to say it, as I think he's a top player and bloke, but Reece misses out for me.....
Yeah I’ve been leaning towards Langi and Hall. Lyne is still a solid option but it’s a shame 2022 wasn’t a great year for him on field. Who knows though, he could very will pick up some form. He’s certainly got the ability to perform at a good standard in SL for a while yet.

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Quote: Luppylad "Really lynne and hall best centre pairing in years they hardly ever played together i can only think you had a brain fart and thinking of lynne and topou or you think that hall and lynne where better than those too,as you say we are all entitled to our opinions. As for langi he was when fit he has been a regular starter for arguably one of best teams in the comp somthing lynne and hall havent,i like both hall and lynne and its good to have 3 top centres and yes in my opinion langi is the best'"


Toupou wasn’t a centre, he had none of the subtle skills that classic centres need to possess. He was a handful physically but didn’t know how to position his opposite number to get on his outside, he knew nothing of how to attract an oppositions winger to him to create space on the outside for his own winger and even if he did he had no passing game. He was effective only as a physical threat and he only had that for a short number of games in one of his seasons with us.

It doesn’t take a genius to see that both Lynne and Hall are genuine centres and therefore a better centre pairing than Lynne and Toupou. We haven’t had two genuinely high standard proper centres since Domic/Atkins/Demetriou so NO I haven’t had a “brain fart” I’m just better than you at judging players

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Quote: The Avenger "Toupou wasn’t a centre, he had none of the subtle skills that classic centres need to possess. He was a handful physically but didn’t know how to position his opposite number to get on his outside, he knew nothing of how to attract an oppositions winger to him to create space on the outside for his own winger and even if he did he had no passing game. He was effective only as a physical threat and he only had that for a short number of games in one of his seasons with us.

It doesn’t take a genius to see that both Lynne and Hall are genuine centres and therefore a better centre pairing than Lynne and Toupou. We haven’t had two genuinely high standard proper centres since Domic/Atkins/Demetriou so NO I haven’t had a “brain fart” I’m just better than you at judging players'"


Wasn't Tupou named in the SL Dream Team? And his winger got in the same year as well? Surely that makes him a pretty good centre?

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Quote: Trojan Horse "Yeah I’ve been leaning towards Langi and Hall. Lyne is still a solid option but it’s a shame 2022 wasn’t a great year for him on field. Who knows though, he could very will pick up some form. He’s certainly got the ability to perform at a good standard in SL for a while yet.'"


Langi and Lyne to start. Hall on the bench.

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Quote: The Avenger "Toupou wasn’t a centre, he had none of the subtle skills that classic centres need to possess. He was a handful physically but didn’t know how to position his opposite number to get on his outside, he knew nothing of how to attract an oppositions winger to him to create space on the outside for his own winger and even if he did he had no passing game. He was effective only as a physical threat and he only had that for a short number of games in one of his seasons with us.

It doesn’t take a genius to see that both Lynne and Hall are genuine centres and therefore a better centre pairing than Lynne and Toupou. We haven’t had two genuinely high standard proper centres since Domic/Atkins/Demetriou so NO I haven’t had a “brain fart” I’m just better than you at judging players'"


Firstly, when we talk about centre partnerships, there is no relationship between centres apart from playing in the same team. It's good to have two good ones in the team but it's not a partnership and hasn't been a partnership since we moved away from inside and outside centres a long time ago.

Second, Tupou not being a centre seems a strange thing to say. He may not be a perfect passing centre like a Collis but not all centres are. Mal Meninga was pretty good at being a running centre. He could pass of course but he ran at defenders first, just like Tupou.
It's just a different style.

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