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| Great news on the face of tihngs, but plenty of question marks
What do we know about 88M?
There appears to be dozens of 88 X companies out there that Mansoor Hussain is a director of (Barr88, Air88, Interiors88, Bet88 and several more), very few of which appear to be trading and even less capable of delivering something of this scale - all on paper of course everything is not always as it first appears.
Anybody know anything so us amater sleuths can get on the case?
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| Good question Tommy...is it Mannie that will be developing ALL of the site, or are Yorkcourt involved in that too, because the way I read it Yorkcourt were just providing the Heads of Terms agreement ??
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| Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "There appears to be dozens of 88 X companies out there that Mansoor Hussain is a director of (Barr88, Air88, Interiors88, Bet88 and several more), very few of which appear to be trading and even less capable of delivering something of this scale - all on paper of course everything is not always as it first appears.
Anybody know anything so us amater sleuths can get on the case?'"
In and of itself, that's not too unusual and doesn't necessarily mean anything nefarious or suspicious; most companies will own (or have owned) multiple legal entities over their lifetime - sometimes they are special purpose vehicles to own particular elements of a business in a more tax efficient way, such as land, property or vehicles for example; and sometimes they are created to insulate a main business from a new venture that may or may not take off. So I wouldn't read too much into it - and I certainly wouldn't use the companies house info to bring their credentials or integrity into question; that stuff will be for MC and CB to sort out - hence the need for *cautious* optimism whilst the due diligence is carried out.
I guess that MC and MH have proven, in different ways, to be shrewd and successful in their own fields - and PB pretty much always gets what he wants, whether you agree with his methods or not; so if YCP can be forced to deliver on their end, there is every chance that this will finally come off. Whether it comes off without a hitch and within the timescale is in some ways, in the lap of the gods; look at Cas, with their cast-iron, definitely gonna happen new stadium - I'm sure it will, but they seem to be no further forward either.
Both teams in their respective new stadia by 2020? Here's hoping!
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| Quote: coco the fullback "Wasn't Glover's original plan to put a roof along the length of the western terrace, but get turned down because of the height?'"
More to do with obstruction of the view of the Sky cameras I believe.
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| And that was from June 2010, so what's he worth now ??
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| I don't know why but after all these many years of a new stadium this deal sounds like it might work? All these people have a reason to make it happen?? Only time will tell but with mc pushing for every last benefit for our club we can only be positive. This should have been done years ago if we had a council that put Wakefield citizens first!
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| A few more quid I would think FIL.
All those industries he has listed on his website are quite big money makers, including the two diverse ones on there, such as Air and Shipping.
In my time working abroad, these are the two industries I worked in.
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| Quote: bren2k "In and of itself, that's not too unusual and doesn't necessarily mean anything nefarious or suspicious; most companies will own (or have owned) multiple legal entities over their lifetime - sometimes they are special purpose vehicles to own particular elements of a business in a more tax efficient way, such as land, property or vehicles for example; and sometimes they are created to insulate a main business from a new venture that may or may not take off. So I wouldn't read too much into it - and I certainly wouldn't use the companies house info to bring their credentials or integrity into question; that stuff will be for MC and CB to sort out - hence the need for *cautious* optimism whilst the due diligence is carried out.
I guess that MC and MH have proven, in different ways, to be shrewd and successful in their own fields - and PB pretty much always gets what he wants, whether you agree with his methods or not; so if YCP can be forced to deliver on their end, there is every chance that this will finally come off. Whether it comes off without a hitch and within the timescale is in some ways, in the lap of the gods; look at Cas, with their cast-iron, definitely gonna happen new stadium - I'm sure it will, but they seem to be no further forward either.
Both teams in their respective new stadia by 2020? Here's hoping!'"
Take your point that in lots of cases you only find out about people/organisations what people want you to find out - and it was slightly more indepth than a search on companies house. Think it's a fair question to be honest if they have got the clout to get involved in something of this scale - even if nobody can really answer for sure. After all, it's not too long since the Probiz guy was knocking about throwning his 'cash' around and getting his name here their and everywhere......
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| Quote: Tommy Duckfingers "After all, it's not too long since the Probiz guy was knocking about throwning his 'cash' around and getting his name here their and everywhere......'"
He was known to be dodgy well before he got involved with Cas - his business was built on aggressive tax avoidance schemes, which is shaky ground at the best of times.
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| Just a little aside to the ground/Newmarket shambles, I e mailed Yvette Cooper on the 10th July asking what she was gonna do etc. I got a reply yesterday saying that Yorkcourts heads of terms were very poor and the council were looking into the Wildcats dilemma.
She's got her finger on the pulse has this lass.
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| Quote: JINJER "Just a little aside to the ground/Newmarket shambles, I e mailed Yvette Cooper on the 10th July asking what she was gonna do etc. I got a reply yesterday saying that Yorkcourts heads of terms were very poor and the council were looking into the Wildcats dilemma.
She's got her finger on the pulse has this lass.
Great isn't she? Wildcats indeed
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| Quote: Wildthing "Great isn't she? Wildcats indeed
Absolutely, more so the fact that she never even mentioned the news we'd received 24hrs before, she was replying to my heads of terms (or whatever it's called) mail.
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| More pictures in today's Wakefield Express apparently, including a drawing of a hotel, a Lidl and part of the WILDCATS ground.. is there any hope??
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| Quote: Wakefield No 1 "More pictures in today's Wakefield Express apparently, including a drawing of a hotel, a Lidl and part of the WILDCATS ground.. is there any hope??'"
All these impressions showing blocks of flats, supermarkets etc don't add up, H&S, access for emergency services etc.
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