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Quote: FIL "Will you two sod off and discuss politics elsewhere...this thread is about the future of our rugby club
Well said eusa_clap.gif

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Sat in Dubai airport reading this sorry tale.... sounds to me like the council and the developer have enlisted the help of a renown public figure to politically manage a potentially very difficult and possibly litigious situation. The owners at Trinity have stated their intention of holding to account those who have failed to hold themselves to account in the past.

Clearly Rodney Walker is not an independent in this issue as his previous actions(leading to his removal from the trust) has shown. I believe that his involvement now is to throw further disarray confusion and division into the situation... and ultimately politically remove the risk factor of Carter and Beresford...

The only real movement I have seen on this issue is since Michael and Chris started to take the hard line...

My experience in risk management say first option is to remove the risk... eliminate the cause... and I see a clever yet transparent risk elimination strategy by the council and the developer...


Create a confusing diversion which might split opinion then get rid of the strongest protagonists....

There is no new trust and no agreement with the council and developer... IMO it's smoke and mirrors to divert the possibility of legal action!


And it makes me so angry!!!!

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Well done MC for putting that out....it is quite clear that Walker, Yorkcourt and Box are all on an ego trip, whereas MC, CB and the other Trust members just want what is best for Wakefield Trinity, ie a future for our club.
The ball is now firmly back in their court for them to finally deliver on their long-overdue promises....but I'll believe it when I am sitting in it !!

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Partly agree and thinking of the same conclusions here as roverman.

Is SRW not wanting Michael or Chris involved with the club, which considerering what theyve done in past 4 years to run the club, think hes got a nerve.

Is SRW wanting to take over the reins of the club.

Well done Michael and Chris for standing up to him.

Can we not work closely with Manni and 88m group and do a full re vamp and stay put.

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God this saga just keeps getting better. They know that MC/CB have broke their backs turning the club around & wouldn't accept any deal just to get a new stadium.

IIRC before Marwen took over, the stadium deal that Salford agreed to initially nearly broke the club?

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Quote: Spookdownunder "Sat in Dubai airport reading this sorry tale.... sounds to me like the council and the developer have enlisted the help of a renown public figure to politically manage a potentially very difficult and possibly litigious situation. The owners at Trinity have stated their intention of holding to account those who have failed to hold themselves to account in the past.

Clearly Rodney Walker is not an independent in this issue as his previous actions(leading to his removal from the trust) has shown. I believe that his involvement now is to throw further disarray confusion and division into the situation... and ultimately politically remove the risk factor of Carter and Beresford...

The only real movement I have seen on this issue is since Michael and Chris started to take the hard line...

My experience in risk management say first option is to remove the risk... eliminate the cause... and I see a clever yet transparent risk elimination strategy by the council and the developer...


Create a confusing diversion which might split opinion then get rid of the strongest protagonists....

There is no new trust and no agreement with the council and developer... IMO it's smoke and mirrors to divert the possibility of legal action!


And it makes me so angry!!!!'"


Just found this Yorkshire Post article from several weeks ago, and this tends to add credence to what Spook is saying...

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cou ... -1-8477909

Box knows that he has backed himself into a corner, so evidently has enlisted the help of Sir Rodders to try and combat the problem !!
Quote: Spookdownunder "Sat in Dubai airport reading this sorry tale.... sounds to me like the council and the developer have enlisted the help of a renown public figure to politically manage a potentially very difficult and possibly litigious situation. The owners at Trinity have stated their intention of holding to account those who have failed to hold themselves to account in the past.

Clearly Rodney Walker is not an independent in this issue as his previous actions(leading to his removal from the trust) has shown. I believe that his involvement now is to throw further disarray confusion and division into the situation... and ultimately politically remove the risk factor of Carter and Beresford...

The only real movement I have seen on this issue is since Michael and Chris started to take the hard line...

My experience in risk management say first option is to remove the risk... eliminate the cause... and I see a clever yet transparent risk elimination strategy by the council and the developer...


Create a confusing diversion which might split opinion then get rid of the strongest protagonists....

There is no new trust and no agreement with the council and developer... IMO it's smoke and mirrors to divert the possibility of legal action!


And it makes me so angry!!!!'"


Just found this Yorkshire Post article from several weeks ago, and this tends to add credence to what Spook is saying...

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cou ... -1-8477909

Box knows that he has backed himself into a corner, so evidently has enlisted the help of Sir Rodders to try and combat the problem !!


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Quote: Eastern Wildcat "Partly agree and thinking of the same conclusions here as roverman.

[iIs SRW not wanting Michael or Chris involved with the club,[/i which considerering what theyve done in past 4 years to run the club, think hes got a nerve.

Is SRW wanting to take over the reins of the club.

Well done Michael and Chris for standing up to him.

Can we not work closely with Manni and 88m group and do a full re vamp and stay put.'"


I read it as SRW not wanting Michael and Chris involved with the Trust. They would still be involved with the club.

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The fact RW knew the Newcold building didn't contribute to the trigger point and didn't tell anyone says it all to me.
I'm glad the club haven't sugar coated the statement but the obvious frustration doesn't bode well. One thing is for sure, YC have done everything so far to get away from building the stadium and are continuing to make things difficult. As mentioned, this just seams like another strategy to either stall things further or just get MC and Chris out of the picture so they can control the situation in their (more profitable) favor. Stinks eusa_wall.gif

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I note that the statement indicates they would be agreeable to resigning from the Stadium Trust. Is this not different from the running of the club. I do not offer an opinion just clarification because it is important to avoid unnecessary misinterpretation.

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Quote: LyndsayGill "I read it as SRW not wanting Michael and Chris involved with the Trust. They would still be involved with the club.'"


Think you're being a bit naiive there, Lyndsay...these are devious politicians that you are talking about...I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them !!

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I read that too that it was only the Trust.

However, would they not have to deal with each other in business terms in future communication as the clubs owners. To me it would make future dealings very awkward indeed.

I think this would be SRWs long term objectives, taking the glory not only for a stadium build, but also possible future onfield success.

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Quote: FIL "Think you're being a bit naiive there, Lyndsay...these are devious politicians that you are talking about...I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them !!'"


Hopefully not that green Fil icon_wink.gif I agree that the characters involved need some watching, to say the least. I also think that if MC and CB walk away from Wakefield Trinity to be replaced by SRW or his 'puppet government' it would be the end of my 40+ years of watching Wakefield Trinity.

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The new trust are saying building work could start later this year.
The current trust don't seem as confident but I can't see what other options we have. Am I the only one thinking we may actually get this community stadium finally built.

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Quote: LyndsayGill "I read it as SRW not wanting Michael and Chris involved with the Trust. They would still be involved with the club.'"

That's how I see it.

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Quote: M62 J30 TRINITY "The new trust are saying building work could start later this year.
The current trust don't seem as confident but I can't see what other options we have. Am I the only one thinking we may actually get this community stadium finally built.'"



I wish I could share your optimism

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