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Quote: PopTart "
We are not comparing to last season though, we are comparing to before Agar, and they have improved there (imho)'"


I agree. Last season was not brilliant until we had that wonderful run at the end. It's amazing what confidence can do - or how much a lack confidence can take away. I can see frustration in the players that it's not coming together like it did at the end of last season. Yes it's up to the coach to instil that confidence and belief but there's no substitute for some back to back wins. Agar may not be the very best that SL has but, with the resources he has, he's not doing bad at all. Our table position last season was above the target and many expected to improve beyond that, but that may a bit unrealistic. I'm waiting 'till the end of the season to give my verdict.

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Quote: deeHell "What a load of old rubbish. You don't have a 7 game winning streak in SL and put it down to luck. WE managed to beat Leeds and Saints in that period. Of course were in a rut at the moment it happens, Agar coached us to over a 50% win rate last season, that's the first time since 2009 we achieved that and only the 3rd time since we've been in SL. People need to get real in their assessment of our their expectations. With our budget anything around 50% win rate is excellent. To call for Agars head at this stage of the season is crazy, the ability is there in team, it just seems a few players have dropped out of form at the same time along with other carrying injuries. I'm sure Agar knows what needs to be done. Lets get this killer of a game over with this weekend and see how we go against Salford and London.

Fans do really over react, I think last year fans thought we was going to progress higher then 8th, in reality that will never happen unless we have a bigger investment into the team. I can't see that happening anytime before Newmarket.'"


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Quote: PopTart "But that is my point.
We are having a dip in form yes, and I am not happy about that either, but my post was in reply to one saying Agar was at fault and listed all the things he has not done well, in that person's opinion. I just wanted to show it is not all negative and that is why I back Agar rather than join the negative posts against him.'"


What I was implying though is that very few positives can be taken away from games this year compared to last year. And that if all the good things that Agar has done at the club occurred last year than that's not very much use this year. In my opinion give Agar till the end of the year then see if he can take this team to another level, if not replace him as we replaced John Kear.

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Whatever views are held it will be interesting to look back on this in the months to come.
We all want the same thing but we all see it differently.

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We will see what Agar is worth and this team tomorrow. I do not expect victory. I do expext a response. If we do not show signs of organisation and recognition of our errors and bad patterns of play, I rest my case. I'm happy to say well done, you turned it round, but I will be astonished if an Agar side does this...8 games end of 2012 and he is seen as God. The other 30 odd have varied between appalling and average. We have and average squad, but not appallling. We should be doing a little better than we are for me. It's the manner of the defeats, the ridiculous self destructive play. I have no issue if they get the basics right

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Quote: REDWHITEANDBLUE "This'"

A 7 game winning run.....well that's just the top isn't it?? What about the other 40 odd games of ??

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Quote: Joe Banjo "WE can,we have done so why are we not doing it,MOTIVATION!'"

THAT MR AGAR SADLY LACKS..HE COULD NOT MOTIVATE ME TO FART AFTER A BIN OF MUSHY PEAS

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Quote: vastman "Just shows how ignorant of reality you clearly are What is our reality then? IS it so hard to expect a super league side to do sets of 6 and get a kick into a reasonable area of the pitch of be able to organise a defenece or tackle with passion? To be able to keep cool and read a game. We are a shambles compared to the majority of Kear coached games. Laughable. Agar continues to make comments that show no understanding of the poblems and pick Reece Lyne who has no possibility of ever being aSL player. So I will take my ignorance overv your knowledge ta

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Quote: charlie63wildcat "THAT MR AGAR SADLY LACKS..HE COULD NOT MOTIVATE ME TO FART AFTER A BIN OF MUSHY PEAS'"


He shouldn't need to.

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Quote: BelleVueLifer "I just think we need a defensive specialist adding to the coaching staff.'"

We need a coach and not a bumbling idiot

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Quote: charlie63wildcat "What is our reality then? IS it so hard to expect a super league side to do sets of 6 and get a kick into a reasonable area of the pitch of be able to organise a defenece or tackle with passion? To be able to keep cool and read a game. We are a shambles compared to the majority of Kear coached games. Laughable. Agar continues to make comments that show no understanding of the poblems and pick Reece Lyne who has no possibility of ever being aSL player. So I will take my ignorance overv your knowledge ta'"

And my typing is as bad as Agar's coaching, I know

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Quote: charlie63wildcat "A 7 game winning run.....well that's just the top isn't it?? What about the other 40 odd games of rubbish??'"


You have nothing positive to say about anything from what I have read of your posts,

You have to live with the fact that we are still on the lowest SL budget we have a thin squad and quite frankly when key players from our squad have been injured we have suffered fact. I actually agree with some of RA decisions on players some of them need game time and you can only put 17 on the pitch, all will get a chance to play as part of their development.

Its frustrating yes but life is like that at times Cas last week we were poor but over the last few years or 30 or so I would rather watch the last couple of seasons offering. The key is the structures of the club in the background and that takes years to sort ala Leeds and Wigan but given the chance it will come obviously patience is not everyones strength.

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I'm not part of the clib but I've been involved recently to a point where I've seen the background and had feedback from some players.
The one thing I get from them is that they DO like Agar and there is a good team spirit.

Agar's win record is as good as most Trinity coaches and I've seen many games where we've lost to only a few points.
To me that makes some od the remarks about Agar on here quite ridiculous.
I remember similar comments when he started and when we lost against Cas at home.

It seems some simply can't let it go and want to jump on him at the first sign of a wobble.
We are going to lose games, and we are certainly going to lose some when we have injuries like we have now.

Why not just support the players that are playing and see what happens.

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Bottom line is the clubs skint and we've lost walk ups today based on the last couple or performances, we can debate all day but it won't change this.

Most on here have a season tickets and will go and support the club/team but a lot of the walk ups will stay in town today in the pubs or soaking up the sun.

I don't think we should overlook the clubs running hand to mouth and this will hurts us.

I understand we are "work in progress" and its not easy but i am worried.

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