Presume that great night out was with the players to say goodbye and I think that BS was still caught up in the Euphoria of the MPG when he said yes I will come back for next season and when we get nearer the start of the season reality returns. We don't have money to throw around willy nilly and I applaud MC for not throwing money we don't have around the fact is BS knew this wasn't going to change any time soon. Talking with a work mate who is a Bulls fan last night and he said you cant knock Carter for his stance on finances he said look at us our financial trouble started when we had top players on top money and we threw money about willy nilly. He said the troubles did not come to light until much further down the line by that time we were paying the cost of getting a load of world class players. The only way we could change playing staff is by wheeling and dealing and sell some players we could sell young Johnstone in a flash he is that highly rated but we need to keep hold of him to help build a good side. I would ask how many players do we have that if we put a for sale sign on would command real good money in an instant including some of those BS said go sign or retain. One door closes another door opens onwards we keep going whoever ends up coach

My understanding is you are right about Monaghan, so must be a strong favourite.

I also agree about Chester and I believe is a friend of MC's so I don't see that working.

Personally I like John Kear, and would make a good director of Rugby, think he is a good fit with our club and it's the sort of situation he loves, (backs to the wall and all that).
Ideally with someone like Morrison as head coach, but that won't happen

So for me JK.

I'm presuming he means that we won't speculate to accumulate, that we have a very conservative outlook. Given our history, that is no bad thing. He may have been at the helm at the birth of Bullmania, and they had some great years, but I seem to recall that one of their problems turned out to be that they spent all they accumulated from the speculation on further speculation (i.e., the money from the crowds attracted from the pre-match stuff was blown on further pre-match stuff).

We have two options for the future: gamble on success or live within our means. If that means cutting costs to the bone so we can spend a little more on players, then fine. We are not a club like Warrington who had good crowds when they were as rubbish as we were. I think the potential is in Wakey, but decades of disappointment is stopping them coming through the turnstiles.

If Yorkcourt buy Super Bowl and use Belle Vue to provide the community facilities then there is a future that is brighter. Low rent, a secure home in better facilities.

He was also talking about basics like putting the heating on in the dressing rooms for the players.
I'd say it is as much about prioritising the cash as it is how much you give overall.

Cheers Alan

It all reads that he couldn't cope with the reality of being at Wakefield.

When he came in last season, there was no time to plan anything, it was all about staying in SL.
Perhaps he thought we were better off (financially) than we were ?

A top coach will always try and put in a decent infrastructure and create the right environment for players to improve and nobody could blame him for this and although "no heating in the changing rooms" is not the b-all to everything, it is of course a symptom of the situation that he joined.

The most worrying comment is the reacting before it's too late which, although cryptic, is a very loaded comment.

All this certainly points to us needing a coach who is used to a tight budget, rather than someone who has been at a top club.

I wouldn't have the players down as true believers myself.

Pretty obvious to many in a similar position
Knocking on a bit, works for the fun of it and that extra bit of cash that allows a frivolous lifestyle. When it gets hard or no longer enjoyable it's time to call it a day and wind down towards death.

I think he probably spoke to his brother about the situation and that could have pathetic the way for a call from another club. I don't see that as unprofessional but simply talking to a member of his family. M C said he couldn't recollect saying no to B S about anything that could have been a well prepared reaction. To work from December in a frosty environment would probably lead to a blow out and boy did we get one. I'm sure the club can learn from the recent goings on and I would hope that the next no brained appointment turns out to be just that.
I have no idea who es leading the field but whoever gets the job will need to have his eyes wide open and a large amount of stamina , thick skin, be single minded, and a vast amount of experience. Fledglings will find the going extremely difficult.
Balancing the books will prove the biggest challenge YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE AND OCCASIONALLY HAVE A PUNT.

I really don't know what BS means by his last comment but I would like to add that the 'REAL' WTW believers are the silly buggers that pay good money year in year out to watch the team that means something to them; not necessarily those huddled in a bar somewhere talking a good game!
I was originally gutted that BS has gone but on reflection I think the way he left was disrespectful to the club, paying him good money and real fans - those on the terraces.

I think you're reading a bit too much into his comments to be honest.

I'm gutted he's gone but he's not disrespected anyone as far as I can see, MC perhaps by the way he resigned but they weren't getting on so hey ho, thats life.

Glad that we've had him at the club, don't think we'd of got the likes of Tupou etc without him, but its absolutely vital that we get this next appointment right. I'm hoping that with BS being the highest paid coach we've ever had, we should have room in the budget to get a quality replacement. Its the one area that MC can't go for the cheap option with, but again, think he knows this already.

Really hope its Morrison or Rowley. Fond memories of Kear and what he did for the club but we shouldn't go back, besides there's no guarantee a man of his years would leave Batley where he is in his element battling against the odds against bigger clubs, but without all the pressure of the WTW gig.

This.
As I've said previously I'm very ********** angry and feel very let down! I bought into the BS (very apt initials) gag, I thought we had a guy with staying power and passion, but sadly not, it might be that I sit back and reflect and have a bit of sympathy for Brian, but at this moment in time it's not happening

Smiths statement, if anything, has left me even more angry. If he wasn't up for the fight (which is what his statement suggests) why did he bother

Also some of the wording of that statement is quite vague and can be left open to interpretation, which doesn't help us at all.

But he said he probably wasn't going to go beyond last year and was convinced to stay.
If he feels he isn't getting what was discussed as the thing to make him stay then I can see his frustration.

On top of that he 'implies' that it isn't doing his health any good so I feel for the guy and although I'm really disappointed, he has my respect and a merry bon voyage from me.