You better be right as I’ll watch it on Trin TV, I don’t normally watch defeats. Just shows how low we have gone when I kind of view this as a victory!

You are now responsible for my fragile mental health

Plenty of effort, can’t fault them for that. But there is still no creative ideas in their half. In fact i actually found last night the most frustrating game of all because given all the ball and territory we had and given Hull were down on energy we really should have won it with something to spare.

I can’t fault the effort in any game we’ve played this season and I know some think we have capitulated after 40 minutes but it was there in black and white last night. We managed to get plenty of field position again but we simply can’t build any pressure because we can’t score any points. Our attack as been the same for a few years and it’s not just now, if you watch our halves they are glued to one side of the field and they never move. If it’s not working change it, get some plays on, get the halves to switch play and try different things to put doubt in our opponents line and break up the defence. It’s all so predictable it’s run to that blade of grass to get to that blade of grass, get some forwards on drop off running at pace. If it can be seen, it can be solved, we make an easy game look complicated.

I agree with most of that and it's only 2018/early 2019 that we were so much more of an attacking threat. Baffling.

I agree.
I think it's more speed of pass but it must be part of the shape he's trying to create as well.
Once it's past the first man it's easy to defend because a) we don't have any dummy runners and b) it got there so slowly that the defense have chance to stand 3 players in front of the runner.
We got success last night with an off load game because when they did stack three defenders on us, it made a big gap when the ball was released.
Still needs players making themselves available though.

The well place kick that Batch latched onto was a well worked move and something I hope we see more of when we get on the opponents line ,more often than not it ends in a drop out or try ..One of the best exponents of it being way back when we had that guy from hudds ,sorry forgot his name Brad .... I think . Think it’s a great weapon to have in your armoury to thwart the on rushers

Are you thinking Brad Drew.

A attacking hooker should be in the middle of the field with the halfs at each side .interchanging We have not got a hooker so that's why we look so disjointed in attack

Yes that the guy Dunkirk

What a player he was, really classy. Although towards the back end of his career I remember an interview with one of our players at the time saying they’d never met a player with a passing and short kick game like his.

What a combination we had then with Brad Drew, Sam Obst and Danny Brough. Ah well!! All in the team at the same time.

Can remember when they played there first game together, All the fans could talk about was ,how fast the ball moved across the line .making overlaps for fun

Exactly. I don't think people realise how much of an affect a slow or inaccurate ball affects everyone else in the attack.

Slow ball is without doubt our biggest weakness, that and lack of runners, though the former does tend to encourage the latter.