The coach seems to agree about a lack of 'rugby intelligence'..... www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... -wakefield

The coach seems to agree about a lack of 'rugby intelligence'..... www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... -wakefield

Finn gave his all, blaming everything on Finn is totally unfair.

Finn dies with the ball because he has no runners - Finn can only create for others he has no off the cuff game.

Miller after a good half a season has gone totally backwards.

Without doubt Miller has far more potential than Finn not least his age but I'd keep Finn next year and find a more reliable and readable partner for him.

next season is make or break for Miller, he needs to put in a full season or drop to the Championship (preferably not with us).

We have been woefully short of creativity this season due to an obvious lack of pivot players yet we are over burdened with alleged back rowers and centres. I know we nee a high utility value in our small squad but two half backs and a part time hooker was never enough. This was bound to catch up with us in the end, Miller and the aged Finn ever present, can't be good.

The season is over it's been finished since the challenge cup semi all we can do is hope the quality of player/man is considerably improved for next season.
The players have showed quite beautifully in the 8s that they have been way out of there depth, count our blessings that we played enough teams low on numbers to qualify for the 8s
Anyone that isn't a season ticket holder and is still watching wow

It's strange that most people would have been happy if we had kept Miller & Finn fit all season and we have just about managed that but, I still cant get over how poor our passing game was, especially when we had made room on the outside.
There were plenty of fans bagging Lyne for getting tackled into touch but, for a winger to be taking a slow looping pass above head height, left him with no chance to score and our distribution from acting half was woeful.
Surely Moules has to at least be in the 17 for the Hull game ?

I think the Finn baggers on here dont question his effort. He simply isnt good or quick enough at this level.

You dont just win games on effort.

Hes 32-33 years old and up to this season had spent all but 2 years of that in the championship and think that says it all. If he was at this standard he would have been signed by someone when he was younger and probably a bit quicker.

Millers been playing with a busted shoulder for some time now so it's not surprising he has the odd poor spell in recent games and I agree that Liam requires someone to run off him.

Hardly surprising regarding his shoulder.

He really does put himself about in defence.

Just proves the point that you need 3 recognised halves in the squad.

Believe Miller has now finished for the season and will have an operation on Monday so he will be back for the start of preseason training in November.

I think our last three sets of the game all ended with Finn tackled with the ball in hand when he had players lined up on his outside and that oft used other option of a kick.

Martin Ridyard was bagged on here a few weeks back as being no better than Finn. Wonder if Finn has ever scored a 90 metre try with Super League players trailing in his wake.

Think what last night showed, is that although Finn and Miller did their bit, it means nothing if you are missing that bit of craft at hooker.
Sio is good but not a hooker, he's a tackling loose forward.
In hindsight, maybe should have switched Finn to hooker and brought Hall into stand off?

But Miller is, funny how the Aussie never gets the blame despite not having played well since magic weekend!

It stuns me that people bag Finn for playing the game exactly how he is asked to and exactly as he is capable of. He's an honest player who does a job - but if others don't play off him it won't work. Strange how everybody was happy with him hen the team was on fire and he was not short of supporting players, it's not Finn who isn't good enough it's a large number of his team mates who are lacking at the moment.

So blinking what, they are not like for like - nor do I recall Ridyard getting bagged on here

I'm afraid fat to few on here get that, they get seduced by what they think is flashy RL when most of the time it's headless chicken stuff they are actually watching.

Exactly what I thought. It was another one of those games where even at half time I thought, if Moore was fit and playing we'd be well up. It ran the Wigan game a close second, to me nearly bursting a blood vessel.

It was just so frustrating and I know players are banged and busted up and we don't have much to play for except pride . I also know, just like when we were winning, our confidence is playing a part and has has been said before me, we've got players like Miller probably only playing due to pain injections but still, we've turned Catalans over at their place no long ago and they were a shadow of even that side. Quite simply with just a bit of simple straight forward RL, where we just held on to balls, passed and caught like you would as a 15 year old, we'd have won handsomely, but oh no not us.

On Finn I think he's done a great job for us this year but like Cas realised, they had to bring in better to improve. We need to get a player like Sam Williams in and have Finny has back up, so we can be fighting it out for 8th again next season (not that's the only position we need addressing) same goes for back up for Miller. As well as giving us cover it makes sure players don't rest on their laurels.