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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "If he feels more valued at another club then fair do's.'"
Value is a very subjective thing in this case; the lad clearly has talent and ability but being part of a team calls for more than that - he also has to fit in with the culture, buy in to the ethos of what the coach is doing and make a positive contribution to the whole club. Any player not doing that diminishes the effectiveness of the team as a whole and unless you want player power to take hold, tough decisions have to be made.
Fortunately, we only see the performance side of things - we are not privy to what goes on behind the scenes, so we are prone to making judgements based on only half the information; those judgements, by extension, are likely to be wrong.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "Mellars, Lynn and Molloy.'"
Lynn plays centre/wing a position that Mariano rarely competes for these days - and I'm sure you like me were lording his early season form.
Mellars I don't get other than perhaps an attempt to put him in the shop window.
Molloy played when Mariano was on loan, didn't pay off.
However Wallshaw and especially Anakin got a chance and both are now obvious replacements for Mariano as is Tuson and Tickitwickita (never remember his name). So it works both ways.
Not a dig at you but it makes me laugh when folk say Agar doesn't promote young players but when he does he's attacked for ignoring existing ones - there are only 17 places available!
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "I think he has been overlooked when he has been the better option, I don't buy the poor attitude reason, and I haven't seen anything more from him since he returned that I didn't see before he was omitted from the squad. If he goes then Agar consistently selecting inferior players ahead of him will have contributed. If he feels more valued at another club then fair do's.'"
Sounds about right to me, its not always down to the player.
He doesn't fit with Agar for whatever reason and thats the end of it.
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| Quote: El Rey "Sounds about right to me, its not always down to the player.
He doesn't fit with Agar for whatever reason and thats the end of it.'"
Then why has he been picked twice in a row?
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| Im really not sure on Frankie. Yes he has his good games, but i once heard him described by an ex member of staff as a flat track bully and that may well be the case. I know he hasnt played every week, and i may have forgotten one, but his best 2 games i think have been against Hemel & London, 2 of teh easier sides we will play this year.
He shows glimpses of what he could be but then in the same game can also show examples of why he will never reach the level of say, a Kirmond.
Ive seen a lot worse in a Trin shirt and wouldnt be unhappy if he signed on again, but at the same time i wouldnt be breaking the bank to ensure he did! Im confused????
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| Quote: vastman "Then why has he been picked twice in a row?'"
I don't know, what does that prove anyway.
He picked RL 4 or 5 times in a row, that imo tells you more.
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| Quote: El Rey "I don't know, what does that prove anyway.
He picked RL 4 or 5 times in a row, that imo tells you more.'"
Obviously that your previous statement about Mariano simply not fitting into Agars plans have been blown out of the water as he has been getting selected.
Picking RL 4-5 times in a row tells me that he's prepared to give a young player a chance to prove himself, which at the start of the season he was doing very well.
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| Thats it Vasty resort to a personal insult as I made you look a fool once again! Maybe Agar had no option becuase the team was appauling in Marianos absence? Not rocket science ! Anyway he's joining Cas good look to him awful decision by the club. Young natural athlete, utility value quick, srtong, can tackle, offload 7 match winning streak this guy in the team, we are mad young and british ! Big mistake
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "Thats it Vasty resort to a personal insult '"
Something you do on a regular basis, so quit whining.
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| Quote: Wildthing "Something you do on a regular basis, so quit whining.'"
Im not whining people like you don't bother me its hard been correct 90% of the time, must be awful for you lot knowing I prove youall wrong.
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "Im not whining people like you don't bother me its hard [ibeen[/i correct 90% of the time, must be awful for you lot knowing I prove youall wrong.'"
Being.
Wrong again
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| Quote: Wildthing "Being.
Wrong again
Get back on topic please. Less bullying if not your posts will be taken down
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "Get back on topic please. Less bullying if not your posts will be taken down
Apology accepted.
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| Quote: newgroundb4cas "Thats it Vasty resort to a personal insult as I made you look a fool once again! Maybe Agar had no option becuase the team was appauling in Marianos absence?
I rate Mariano, but he's 26, effectively half way through his career, so I wouldn't place him in the young/potential bracket.
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| I don't really see how its the clubs fault for him going to Castleford if it is true. He makes his own decisions not the club - Im pretty sure hes playing now to earn his new contract for next year?
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