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Quote: FOREVERTRIN "Dave,as regards your post on Trueman it's pretty much how I've seen him play on tv and agree entirely.
I don't think there is any doubting that he was an exceptional player at Cas and DP must be confident that he can get back to that kind of form.If he's in then he will get my full backing.'"



Good post and I agree, there is a good player there and you only have to look at Evalds, who looked finished at Cas and has been exceptional.

Think it's best for Trueman and Hull to part ways.

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Quote: Dave K. "I'd love you to give me an example, although I told you Proctor was a terrible signing and you told me he wasn't.

Plus in the last 10 years we have won the challenge cup twice
Proctor didn’t come to us from Hull.

Ok, the last few years if that helps, fact is your club was in free fall and even now some of your signings have been dire

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Can not get my head round the fact that we are signing a 6 and 7 from two of the worst teams in S L this season and they are going to make us a top 8 team Playing in the spine of the team they have got to take some responsibility for the poor form of the two teams

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Quote: vastman "Proctor didn’t come to us from Hull.

Ok, the last few years if that helps, fact is your club was in free fall and even now some of your signings have been dire'"


Never said we haven't been poor the last 7 or so years and recruitment has been terrible.

Some of our players leaving have been poor(Gale, Reynolds l, Evans, Trueman, Ockunbot, Pele etc) , some good (Connor, Swift, Litten, Griffin, Clifford etc).

Scott's a good player with potential, picks up alot of injuries though.

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Powell pretty much confirmed we’d signed Truman as when asked he said he. Wasn’t going to comment on that !

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Quote: alegend "Can not get my head round the fact that we are signing a 6 and 7 from two of the worst teams in S L this season and they are going to make us a top 8 team Playing in the spine of the team they have got to take some responsibility for the poor form of the two teams'"


I get where you’re coming from, but you need to have kept an eye on them to see that it’s hard to pin much responsibility on them. Russell has only started 11 games, some of them at hooker, in a spine dominated by two talented plonkers (Connor and Lolohea). The idea of bringing him in is to let him lead a team around instead of being backup or second fiddle. Trueman’s played 11 games all season, and has always looked one of their better players. If Trueman stays fit we’re onto a winner. On Russell I’m not so confident, but would love to be proved wrong.

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Quote: Butcher "I get where you’re coming from, but you need to have kept an eye on them to see that it’s hard to pin much responsibility on them. Russell has only started 11 games, some of them at hooker, in a spine dominated by two talented plonkers (Connor and Lolohea). The idea of bringing him in is to let him lead a team around instead of being backup or second fiddle. Trueman’s played 11 games all season, and has always looked one of their better players. If Trueman stays fit we’re onto a winner. On Russell I’m not so confident, but would love to be proved wrong.'"

Trueman could go either way for Wakey, he'll be much better with a proper pre season which he's never had at Hull but he's been far from one of our better players, an on loan Reynolds and an 18 year old Charles have been much better. I dont think the marquee contract helped his performances with the expectation to perform as a marquee player in the pressure cooker at Hull. I hope he goes well and stays injury free whether that's with Hull or Wakey, the kid deserves some luck. There's a good player in there he just needs a chance to show it consistently.

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If you’ve watched rugby long enough and taken things on board over the many years of the game players move from club to club and a lot fit in well and excell and many don’t, ive got trust in DP to select the players we need

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On the logic of signing players from lower SL I don't get. All the clubs in top half do this and no one says anything, it's like saying to Catalan "don't sign Tom J as he only plays for Wakey". Or Alex Whalmsley only plays for Batley

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Don’t know what alegend is expecting, Nathan Cleary and Sam Walker in one window?

Keeps going on about Trueman and Russel not getting us in top eight, well this might come a bit of a shock to you alegend, but Rome wasn’t built in a day! We aren’t going to be an instant top eight club even though that would be nice.

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Quote: Willzay "Don’t know what alegend is expecting, Nathan Cleary and Sam Walker in one window?

Keeps going on about Trueman and Russel not getting us in top eight, well this might come a bit of a shock to you alegend, but Rome wasn’t built in a day! We aren’t going to be an instant top eight club even though that would be nice.'"


Well the target is very much to be top 6 in the return season. I’m pretty sure Ellis has gone on record as such. I’m pretty sure he won’t write off being a top 6 playoffs never mind top 8.

Spending full cap and marquee x2 if certainly be disappointed if we didn’t at least challenge for playoffs in our return year.

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Quote: Willzay "Don’t know what alegend is expecting, Nathan Cleary and Sam Walker in one window?

Keeps going on about Trueman and Russel not getting us in top eight, well this might come a bit of a shock to you alegend, but Rome wasn’t built in a day! We aren’t going to be an instant top eight club even though that would be nice.'"

Just looked to me like panic buying in the most important position on the park 7 month before S L starts if we are in

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I don't think you see the point alegend. To me looks as we are building a team of good age with still a lot to prove I.e hall , Russell,Trueman and possibly best years to come. Along with a couple of elder proven player's I e mcmekenn. Rugby is a team game, give me a well drilled team anyday

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Quote: Trin e ti "I don't think you see the point alegend. To me looks as we are building a team of good age with still a lot to prove I.e hall , Russell,Trueman and possibly best years to come. Along with a couple of elder proven player's I e mcmekenn. Rugby is a team game, give me a well drilled team anyday'"

Does not matter how well drilled your team is ,if your spine is not up to it you will struggle ,As said been the main problem at Wakefield for the last 3 year

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I think if you take your mind back 18 months ago and think if we had been in the market for the player we are now would we turn our nose up at Olly Russell and Trueman? Or bringing in two Marquees?

The plan is a 4 year plan not a 2 year one. I guess next years target is aim for playoff, year after play offs and year 4 silverware. We need to build with players who are available year on year to build a squad, you can't just get it or you will just do what Salford did. Or look a Leigh rose fast and seem possibly to be crashing and burning.

HKR took a pragmatic slow approach to building and it's taken the a few year to look like challengers so just trust the process and enjoy the ride.

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