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| I suspect Agar and Wakefiled will be relatively safe whilst the Bulls are in a mess and still in negative points. I would guess today's game wasn't one you were realistically targeting for points, although it may well have been a different matter if it had been at home.
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| In an ideal world Agar we'd sack Agar, he simply is not a good enough coach, and is record is testament to that. However I don't think we can afford to pay off his contract therefore we're stuck with him. Wonder if Wakefield Cathedral would consider painting a section of pews red white and blue, would be nice to have somewhere to congregate and pray for a miracle.......
....... Worst thing about it is I still think there's a good team in our squad, it just doesn't fit with Agar's selection policy.
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| Quote: PopTart "Oh my goodness. After the next two games we'll only have another 22 games. It will be too late.
It's a new team. Give it time.
Sammut and Godinet have both shown signs of great things when they haven't needed to play in a system. When they fit it together it will be great. I'm sure of it.
Defense needs coordination and we have none at the moment.'"
Sort of agree with the sentiment expressed here but, Poptart, you've got to agree that the next two games are key. Lose them and we will almost certainly be bottom having lost to all the other likely candidates for relegation and with a five game losing streak to drain player confidence even more. The pressure for the rest of the season will be immense. Is Agar the man to galvanise the team to withstand that pressure and become a winning team? That will be the key question for MC etc but my feeling is, "no". I've always felt RA should be given a chance but feel now that the next two games are all the chance he has left.
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| Quote: PopTart "Oh my goodness. After the next two games we'll only have another 22 games. It will be too late.
It's a new team. Give it time.
Sammut and Godinet have both shown signs of great things when they haven't needed to play in a system. When they fit it together it will be great. I'm sure of it.
Defense needs coordination and we have none at the moment.'"
2 winnable games coming up, we don't have time for them to gel we need some points on the board.
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| agar needs to go now before its too late,was at wigan today they was utter e,
i wont be wasting my wage no more to go watch such crap,
why is he still playing lyne??? for one
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| Cant see us paying him off and doubt he will be going anywhere this year.
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| Quote: Wakey Til I Die "2 winnable games coming up, we don't have time for them to gel we need some points on the board.'"
Of course we need them to win, but you can't just ignore the fact that the team is going to find it difficult.
You can't just throw people together and expect them to play well.
And Kev's head I agree the next two games are very important, but not the end.
I am confident we''ll win a lot of games when we start to pick up the team work.
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| Quote: 4foxsake "In an ideal world Agar we'd sack Agar.'"
In an ideal world we wouldn't have give him the job in the 1st place.
Elston's Legacy. I bet he's laughing his chuffin head off!
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| Quote: PopTart "Of course we need them to win, but you can't just ignore the fact that the team is going to find it difficult.
You can't just throw people together and expect them to play well.
And Kev's head I agree the next two games are very important, but not the end.
I am confident we''ll win a lot of games when we start to pick up the team work.'"
Lots of wins? Against who exactly? I think you and many others are over estimating the ability of this team, its a competitive team on paper against the lower sides but we will finish 12th at best for a reason.
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| We'll see I guess
I am sticking my neck out and saying Agar will get something good going and we will win games.
After the next two, Bradford, London, Widnes twice, Hull KR twice, and for all their lofty position I put Cas in there too.
I think well upset another couple along the way. We may run out of time to gel but I think it's there for us.
I see the bad at the moment. I'm not blind. But I think it is solved with time not sacking.
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| Wait till he describes the fight to avoid relegation 'exciting'.
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| Quote: K-Diddy "Wait till he describes the fight to avoid relegation 'exciting'.'" it is we've been there
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| It would be good if we could put our best 17 together and play them together for a 3/4 week period which would help with a team gelling together. That has been another issue on top of all the other ones already raised with players already playing out of position in the 3rd week of the season.
How did Walshaw do at prop?
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| Quote: PopTart "We'll see I guess
I am sticking my neck out and saying Agar will get something good going and we will win games.
After the next two, Bradford, London, Widnes twice, Hull KR twice, and for all their lofty position I put Cas in there too.
I think well upset another couple along the way. We may run out of time to gel but I think it's there for us.
I see the bad at the moment. I'm not blind. But I think it is solved with time not sacking.'"
There needs to be a marked improvement in cohesion over the next fortnight for me to justify keeping him. I don't expect the finished article but the signs of progress should be there. There wasn't much sign today that we are any further on than we were against salford.
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| Quote: Wakey Til I Die "There needs to be a marked improvement in cohesion over the next fortnight for me to justify keeping him. I don't expect the finished article but the signs of progress should be there. There wasn't much sign today that we are any further on than we were against salford.'"
This is the crux for me.
I judge Agar on team improvement. He has a new team again.
Clearly we need wins but it's unfair to judge him when we lose to Wigan.
The team has to show improvement over the next few weeks though. I don't mind if we lose to top sides on form but 2 big games and improvement needed from team rather than creating skill in individuals who don't have it.
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