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Quote: Kettykat "A stuttering career so far ,never really hit those heights he was projected to do when he burst onto the scene , injuries have blighted and curtailed his once promising career up to press . Big risk for me taking a far from robust half ,albeit a skilled one on his day ,although Powell knows this and if willing to take the risk ,who am I to complain .'"


Definitely an element of risk. If he can get past the injuries then I definitely feel there’s a very good half there. Hopefully a pre season with a top back room staff will get him in a good place.

Hopefully he can realise that early promise.

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Quote: Kettykat "A stuttering career so far ,never really hit those heights he was projected to do when he burst onto the scene , injuries have blighted and curtailed his once promising career up to press . Big risk for me taking a far from robust half ,albeit a skilled one on his day ,although Powell knows this and if willing to take the risk ,who am I to complain .'"


I remember having thoughts on Lomax at saints who earlier on in his career was very unlucky with injuries, there was a period where he went 4 or 5 seasons getting injury after injury and it just looked like he was destined to be a talent that would never fulfill his potential then out of nowhere he kicked on and now he's probably one of the most durable halfbacks in the game.

It's not a comparison at all, more how funny the game can be, it's probably down to bad luck than anything else. Trueman is quality, in fact when you consider how much time he's had to spend on the sidelines, in the development stages of his career, it's miraculous how good he looks in that role.

He has signed anyway apparently so fingers crossed he can stay fit.

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Can Teueman regai his firm though, was deventer last year, but apart from one gane has bee n very poor, I know we have been rubbish, but we have still had individual players perform, both Reynolds (championship standard) and Charles (18 years old) have been better than him. Has pretty much no pave or running gane, kicking been awful, best past of his game has been his defence.

Think he needs a fresh start, hopefully his injury isn't too bad and he gets a full preseason and regain some form, too much of an expensive risk to keep at Hull.

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Quote: Dave K. "Can Teueman regai his firm though, was deventer last year, but apart from one gane has bee n very poor, I know we have been rubbish, but we have still had individual players perform, both Reynolds (championship standard) and Charles (18 years old) have been better than him. Has pretty much no pave or running gane, kicking been awful, best past of his game has been his defence.

Think he needs a fresh start, hopefully his injury isn't too bad and he gets a full preseason and regain some form, too much of an expensive risk to keep at Hull.'"


Let's be honest Dave, there are very few players that have gone to Hull FC over the last few years and performed well consistently, infact it's quite the opposite, you've taken what on the face it of it are brilliant players or players with lots of potential and turned them into rubbish ones... Although I think you may have turned a corner bringing Cartwright in and seem to have a few good young players with lots of potential, particularly the young fullback, half and hooker you have coming through.

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Quote: homme vaste "Let's be honest Dave, there are very few players that have gone to Hull FC over the last few years and performed well consistently, infact it's quite the opposite, you've taken what on the face it of it are brilliant players or players with lots of potential and turned them into rubbish ones... Although I think you may have turned a corner bringing Cartwright in and seem to have a few good young players with lots of potential, particularly the young fullback, half and hooker you have coming through.'"


According to this poster all players leaving Hull are poor. Totally ignoring what toxic wasteland Hull FC have become in the last ten years.

I would take almost any player from Hull based on the theory that they can't get any worse than Hull have made them. For most including Trueman, the only way is up.

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Dave,as regards your post on Trueman it's pretty much how I've seen him play on tv and agree entirely.
I don't think there is any doubting that he was an exceptional player at Cas and DP must be confident that he can get back to that kind of form.If he's in then he will get my full backing.

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Can we afford a half that is resurrecting his career ,time will tell and that one, but we need to hit the ground running as Leigh did ,and to that end they got in a world class half who bossed the game from the off ,not a lad finding his feet after numerous setbacks . I hope he rekindles his game that the pundits used rave about as an England half in the making ,because there will be no where to hide ones that whistle blows in our first game back in the big time .

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Quote: vastman "According to this poster all players leaving Hull are poor. Totally ignoring what toxic wasteland Hull FC have become in the last ten years.

I would take almost any player from Hull based on the theory that they can't get any worse than Hull have made them. For most including Trueman, the only way is up.'"



I'd love you to give me an example, although I told you Proctor was a terrible signing and you told me he wasn't.

Plus in the last 10 years we have won the challenge cup twice icon_cool.gif

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Quote: homme vaste "Let's be honest Dave, there are very few players that have gone to Hull FC over the last few years and performed well consistently, infact it's quite the opposite, you've taken what on the face it of it are brilliant players or players with lots of potential and turned them into rubbish ones... Although I think you may have turned a corner bringing Cartwright in and seem to have a few good young players with lots of potential, particularly the young fullback, half and hooker you have coming through.'"


I don't think that's true, plenty of good players have come and performed well, the issue we have spent money on either shocking players or paid too much for injury prone players.

Shocking recruitment of players and coaches has led us to this mess

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Quote: FOREVERTRIN "Dave,as regards your post on Trueman it's pretty much how I've seen him play on tv and agree entirely.
I don't think there is any doubting that he was an exceptional player at Cas and DP must be confident that he can get back to that kind of form.If he's in then he will get my full backing.'"



Good post and I agree, there is a good player there and you only have to look at Evalds, who looked finished at Cas and has been exceptional.

Think it's best for Trueman and Hull to part ways.

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Quote: Dave K. "I'd love you to give me an example, although I told you Proctor was a terrible signing and you told me he wasn't.

Plus in the last 10 years we have won the challenge cup twice
Proctor didn’t come to us from Hull.

Ok, the last few years if that helps, fact is your club was in free fall and even now some of your signings have been dire

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Can not get my head round the fact that we are signing a 6 and 7 from two of the worst teams in S L this season and they are going to make us a top 8 team Playing in the spine of the team they have got to take some responsibility for the poor form of the two teams

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Quote: vastman "Proctor didn’t come to us from Hull.

Ok, the last few years if that helps, fact is your club was in free fall and even now some of your signings have been dire'"


Never said we haven't been poor the last 7 or so years and recruitment has been terrible.

Some of our players leaving have been poor(Gale, Reynolds l, Evans, Trueman, Ockunbot, Pele etc) , some good (Connor, Swift, Litten, Griffin, Clifford etc).

Scott's a good player with potential, picks up alot of injuries though.

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Powell pretty much confirmed we’d signed Truman as when asked he said he. Wasn’t going to comment on that !

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Quote: alegend "Can not get my head round the fact that we are signing a 6 and 7 from two of the worst teams in S L this season and they are going to make us a top 8 team Playing in the spine of the team they have got to take some responsibility for the poor form of the two teams'"


I get where you’re coming from, but you need to have kept an eye on them to see that it’s hard to pin much responsibility on them. Russell has only started 11 games, some of them at hooker, in a spine dominated by two talented plonkers (Connor and Lolohea). The idea of bringing him in is to let him lead a team around instead of being backup or second fiddle. Trueman’s played 11 games all season, and has always looked one of their better players. If Trueman stays fit we’re onto a winner. On Russell I’m not so confident, but would love to be proved wrong.

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