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Quote: bishops finger "Watching from the East stand last night i said to my mate that it unfortunatly looked like you was goung to get another heavy nilling, because at 22 nil down youd not really offered anything, but i think that try late in the half gave your lads a bit of hope, and they obviously came out second half and really troubled us, not only troubled us but played some good off the cuff rugby too, maybe Rovers had put the cue on the rack who knows. I think you need to take that offoading heads up style into every game from now on.
Secind half both Gale and Dagger really shone, that should be your hb pairing, and despite his sin binning, big Fafita was absolute quality, hes still a wrecking ball.
I really hope you can get a few more results to make it interesting.'"

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Got to my first away game last night.

Disappointing result, but I thought we played well for large parts - not that I really know what I'm talking about. I still don't understand all the finer points of the rules, which in a strange way, makes it a bit more interesting!

Enjoyed the evening, but my god, that traffic afterwards. Every main road in Hull seemed to be closed, and it felt like I spent an hour driving around in circles.

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Quote: WT_Midlander "Got to my first away game last night.

Disappointing result, but I thought we played well for large parts - not that I really know what I'm talking about. I still don't understand all the finer points of the rules, which in a strange way, makes it a bit more interesting!

Enjoyed the evening, but my god, that traffic afterwards. Every main road in Hull seemed to be closed, and it felt like I spent an hour driving around in circles.'"


I was the same. We went to the bar area thinking we'd get a burger and let traffic go.
All the eating places closed and all the KR fans stayed to cheer Coote, so we just ended up in more traffic. Then sat nav gave us a tour of Hull.

But I enjoyed the game and I haven't said that much this season.

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Quote: Sacred Cow "Agreed, thats how i saw it. He also then gave Kendall some verbals that didn’t help his cause. Yaha shouldn’t have been sin-binned for them either, his arms were clearly wrapped around Jowitt’s body. It was just a good hard hit. The obstruction was a harsh call though i thought.'"


I think Yaha's right shoulder makes contact with Jowitt's head. Deemed accidental so only yellow rather than red.

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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "I think Yaha's right shoulder makes contact with Jowitt's head. Deemed accidental so only yellow rather than red.'"


Looks like it on highlights. You can see yaha head is to the left of Jowitts head so his shoulder will likely square on his chin hence the yellow. Accidental but ref got that right imo.

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Quote: Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo "I think Yaha's right shoulder makes contact with Jowitt's head. Deemed accidental so only yellow rather than red.'"

His right shoulder isn’t even close to his head. There’s an accidental head clash in there but thats all, nothing illegal whatsoever.

There’s the perfect picture at the point of impact on Richard Silverwoods twitter account. Shows exactly how it happened, pretty much bang on.

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Quote: Sacred Cow "His right shoulder isn’t even close to his head. There’s an accidental head clash in there but thats all, nothing illegal whatsoever.

There’s the perfect picture at the point of impact on Richard Silverwoods twitter account. Shows exactly how it happened, pretty much bang on.'"


But if you go in for a big tackle, and accidentally clash heads it's still a yellow. It's the tackles responsibility to not do that.

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Quote: PopTart "But if you go in for a big tackle, and accidentally clash heads it's still a yellow. It's the tackles responsibility to not do that.'"


Exactly, if you go on to put a big hit it’s no longer accidental contact to the head. It’s reckless. So still 10 minutes was right.

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Quote: Trojan Horse "Exactly, if you go on to put a big hit it’s no longer accidental contact to the head. It’s reckless. So still 10 minutes was right.'"

Incorrect. There is nowhere in the rules where an accidental head clash is even a penalty, let alone a card.

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Quote: Sacred Cow "Incorrect. There is nowhere in the rules where an accidental head clash is even a penalty, let alone a card.'"


I must admit I have never seen an accidental head clash penalised let alone a sin bin offence.

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Quote: Sacred Cow "Incorrect. There is nowhere in the rules where an accidental head clash is even a penalty, let alone a card.'"


Contact with the Head in a tackle. It's not actually an accident if it's an upright tackle.
An accident is when two players come together when neither expected the collision.
Yaya hit the tackle aggressively and it looked like a great tackle to me, but if he makes contact with the head it's careless and a bin.

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Quote: PopTart "Contact with the Head in a tackle. It's not actually an accident if it's an upright tackle.
An accident is when two players come together when neither expected the collision.
Yaya hit the tackle aggressively and it looked like a great tackle to me, but if he makes contact with the head it's careless and a bin.'"

Nope, thats not what the rules state. For it to have been a penalty he would have had to lead with the head which would have been a red.

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Did he not lead with the head?

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Pop Tart, there’s a tacit acceptance within the game that accidental head clashes happen where no one is at fault.
Rugby League is a high speed intense collision sport and accidental head contact is an inevitability
The search for someone to blame when this happens is one of the things that’s killing the sport as a spectacle. Even in this modern game where they’re trying to sanitise everything there’s still a level of discretion in the officiating of a match and those Referees who truly understand the nature of the game will use that discretion well.
Officials who know nothing of the game other than the rule book will always be on the wrong side of that discretion and will frustrate the players.

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Quote: The Avenger "Pop Tart, there’s a tacit acceptance within the game that accidental head clashes happen where no one is at fault.
Rugby League is a high speed intense collision sport and accidental head contact is an inevitability
The search for someone to blame when this happens is one of the things that’s killing the sport as a spectacle. Even in this modern game where they’re trying to sanitise everything there’s still a level of discretion in the officiating of a match and those Referees who truly understand the nature of the game will use that discretion well.
Officials who know nothing of the game other than the rule book will always be on the wrong side of that discretion and will frustrate the players.'"


I don't particularly disagree. Accidents do happen and in this case I thought it was a good tackle.
I haven't watched it back on TV yet.

But the RFL are trying to clean up the head knocks in the game and they say that if you try to do a big ball and all tackle, you have to do it without hitting the head.

If Max ducks into the tackle at the last minute I'd say it was an accident.
If he doesn't, and there is either contact with the head or shoulder.....then it's the responsibility of the tackler

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