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| This is my 43 post and I am quite stunned at the thread. I am a long time supporter, my first final was 62 and Jacques and myself stood in the rain in 68. In short, had the t shirt, in fact several of them, good years and many dire average years included.
I have been in business for over 30 years and been through several recessions. In simple terms, you have to do what the new chairman is trying to do, cut your overheads which include staff and running costs. It is a painful process but necessary. I was once told not to feel sorry for staff when you lay them off (easier said than done) as they will not feel sorry for you when applying for another job. In many ways, you can draw a parallel and see that most players will get another job and in some cases better terms. This business difference is that you could end up being paid for losing an employee by another club to improve your bank balance.
The thread opener referred to overseas players, and I still maintain that after wages, flights, accommodation, car and ancillary family costs, this is more expensive than an average English player. I know we played Castleford with only 2 UK players some years ago to stay up and I accept commitment is not an issue. It is basic finance. If push came to shove, would you prefer to lose Aiton, Poore and Tautai or Kirmond, Amor and Annakin?
London, Castleford, Bradford, HKR & Wakefield all have issues. Who knows how it will pan out for them. Perhaps we are too open for our own good.
I will keep the faith, buy my tickets and the rest, and continue to think of ideas to get the old girl back on her feet again. There is too much history, tradition and memories to do otherwise. We need Mr.Carter & Co. to feel there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
KEEP THE FAITH- TOGETHER WE ARE STRONGER
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| Quote: kinleycat "Equally he might be just as wrong.
Unquestionably there is a lot of negativity and doubt but this is over the years what we have become to expect being a Wakey fan, so it is at least understandable (to us anyway) if not to outsiders.
It is (less so) a vehicle for gathering support for change and that is also evident.
One thing that we should not discourage though is participation after all everyone has an opinion and at heart - the best of intentions for their club.
We are independent and we should have a voice - for good would be ideal but arriving at that is sometimes difficult and always different for each individual supporter.'"
You miss my point. I was referring to his point avoiding the forums, personally.
Sick of reading the doom and gloom and other supporters gloating while pretending to be informing us.
Opinions are valid, but I don't want to read them all. Thats my perogative!
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| Of those six Manuel if I had to keep three it would be Kirmond,Aiton and Amor.
I would retain on the basis of best for the team.
So one import retained and two off loaded if absolutely necessary.
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| The players to leave, if there are any, identify themselves by 3 main criteriaSalary
We need to offload wages to reduce future overheads
Transfer Value
We need a cash influx ASAP
Contract Length
Valuable players who could walk for free in the next 12 months unless we cash in now
Any players who tick all three boxes are prime candidates for transfer.
Backing out of the Tuson deal will only affect the first criteria but could seriously and detrimentally affect season ticket sales and prove to be a false economy.
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If Amor was on 70K but we could get 100k transfer for him it would make sense to let him go and sign another prop on similar money or less. We reduce future overheads and we'd alleviate the budget by £100K
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| Quote: The Clan "The players to leave, if there are any, identify themselves by 3 main criteriaSalary
We need to offload wages to reduce future overheads
Transfer Value
We need a cash influx ASAP
Contract Length
Valuable players who could walk for free in the next 12 months unless we cash in now
Any players who tick all three boxes are prime candidates for transfer.
Backing out of the Tuson deal will only affect the first criteria but could seriously and detrimentally affect season ticket sales and prove to be a false economy.
Hypertheticaly
If Amor was on 70K but we could get 100k transfer for him it would make sense to let him go and sign another prop on similar money or less. We reduce future overheads and we'd alleviate the budget by £100K'"
Yeah but where do we find a prop as good who is prepared to come? Few better in Superleague on this years showing.
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| Quote: Schunter "Yeah but where do we find a prop as good who is prepared to come? Few better in Superleague on this years showing.'"
He's very close to being the best in SL imo and would be a massive loss.
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| Quote: El Rey "He's very close to being the best in SL imo and would be a massive loss.'"
He would be a massive loss but if he commands a fee that is close to his ability/worth then I'd rather lose him than lose the entire club.
Just because we need investment though we should not sell him for less than what we believe he is worth. He is good enough to be wanted by several teams and we should be maximising the revenue we can get IF we do have to sell him
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| Quote: Fordy "He would be a massive loss but if he commands a fee that is close to his ability/worth then I'd rather lose him than lose the entire club.
Just because we need investment though we should not sell him for less than what we believe he is worth. He is good enough to be wanted by several teams and we should be maximising the revenue we can get IF we do have to sell him'"
Oh I understand what you are saying but we won't sell many season tickets on the back of it.
What will be will be.
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| Quote: El Rey "Oh I understand what you are saying but we won't sell many season tickets on the back of it.
What will be will be.'"
I know.
I'm gutted TBH but not ready to give up quite yet!
I blame Phil!!
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| Quote: Fordy "I know.
I'm gutted TBH but not ready to give up quite yet!
I blame Phil!!'"
I'm sure he'll be pleased to hear that
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| Quote: 1873 "Just picked up on this, does not sound good, seems to be more to the story than has been announced. The players are accepting this is the last game as a group.
After listening to that interview it just sounds as though all your players have already been put on notice doesn't it.
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| Quote: Schunter "Yeah but where do we find a prop as good who is prepared to come? Few better in Superleague on this years showing.'"
I did say hyporthetically,
However, if Amor was to go I agree we would be extremely lucky to find someone nearly as good but that's the state of affairs we find ourselves in.
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| Quote: The Clan "I did say hyporthetically,
However, if Amor was to go I agree we would be extremely lucky to find someone nearly as good but that's the state of affairs we find ourselves in.'"
Looking at the positive angel for once, Amor came to Trinity under difficult circumstances, his departure could enable Trinity to recruit another young prop hungry for an opportunity. Unlikely, but there is a precedence.
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| Don't know about who should be the next to leave but that blood sucker Elston should have been the first taking his wife with him, all that man has done is Stabbed Francis Stephenson in the back continue with the Richardson regimes business ethics spend money put in place by Mr Glover who on his own admission knew nothing about Rugby and lets be fair has been led a merry dance by this jumped up rugby league wanna be.
I have been called on here in the past by many saying i have had a vendetta against this man maybe its because I saw what this idiot has proven himself to be a long time ago.
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