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Quote: Willzay "Where’s the logic in backing a coach that has set so many unwanted records in his first season and is set to relegate his first club in charge?'"


That's not what they are saying.

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Quote: PopTart "That's not what they are saying.'"

Yes it is, and I'm not sure we should be trusting the word or decisions of people who describe the appointment of "one of the most talented young coaches in the game" and then fail to act when he decisively proves he isn't

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Quote: Egg Banjo "Yes it is, and I'm not sure we should be trusting the word or decisions of people who describe the appointment of "one of the most talented young coaches in the game" and then fail to act when he decisively proves he isn't'"


We might be on different posts then but if you are saying they are getting grief for Mash then yes they made that decision. Its on them.

All the other stuff about the stadium is just a load of tosh.

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I think if you consider the Cas performance against us, it’s hard to disagree that they have more spine than us and deserve to be above in the table. Simply, we are unadulterated crap.

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We all know the problems we faced before the season even started. We I presume to limit our expenditure started with the weakest squad in SL and an inexperienced SL coach. I suppose we hoped that by adding players on two week loans we could fill any gaps that occurred without spending too much. We did add a few better players after our 14 game run of defeats but even they didn’t actually elevate the squad above any other team and the coach only made it worse.
I think we all know the fate that awaits us, fortunately some can walk away from the embarrassment of this and previous seasons when we have struggled, the supporters however cannot and are left with whatever remains from this period.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "We all know the problems we faced before the season even started. We I presume to limit our expenditure started with the weakest squad in SL and an inexperienced SL coach. I suppose we hoped that by adding players on two week loans we could fill any gaps that occurred without spending too much. We did add a few better players after our 14 game run of defeats but even they didn’t actually elevate the squad above any other team and the coach only made it worse.
I think we all know the fate that awaits us, fortunately some can walk away from the embarrassment of this and previous seasons when we have struggled, the supporters however cannot and are left with whatever remains from this period.'"


I agree with that post. It's just my opinion but I consider the first and foremost priority of any board of directors is to ensure the clubs super League survival. Others may think that is not a priority.

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Quote: Prince Buster "I agree with that post. It's just my opinion but I consider the first and foremost priority of any board of directors is to ensure the clubs super League survival. Others may think that is not a priority.'"


I agree.
But from next year, that means finances, stadium facilities, fan base, etc etc. Not just your league position.

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If we are in the Championship the supporters will not want to see a team of triers, they will expect to see success

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Quote: PopTart "I agree.
But from next year, that means finances, stadium facilities, fan base, etc etc. Not just your league position.'"

IMG aren't going to remove a team from Super League no matter if there is a team in the championship who have a little bit nicer ground. Yes, other things count, but the absolute biggest factor to being in Super League long term is which league you are in at the end of this season.

This much has been obvious since last year, well obvious to all but our board it would seem who decided that this was the year that they should gamble with a weak squad and untested coach

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Quote: Egg Banjo "IMG aren't going to remove a team from Super League no matter if there is a team in the championship who have a little bit nicer ground. Yes, other things count, but the absolute biggest factor to being in Super League long term is which league you are in at the end of this season.

This much has been obvious since last year, well obvious to all but our board it would seem who decided that this was the year that they should gamble with a weak squad and untested coach'"


I think you need to go read the rules again.

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Quote: PopTart "I agree.
But from next year, that means finances, stadium facilities, fan base, etc etc. Not just your league position.'"

Our fan base is nothing to shout about and I don't see how delivering garbage to paying customers will increase the numbers. It's also nice to have good facilities and a single stand improves things but other parts of the ground are dire. Again people are not going to pay money in good facilities to watch a losing team. We are a rugby League club and what happens on the pitch is what makes people support their club.

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Quote: PopTart "I think you need to go read the rules again.'"


True, I think the team finishing top of championship gets same (or more) performance points than the team finishing bottom of SL. I would expect if both are B’s anyway then they will effectively swap places.

I’m not worried if it comes to it. So long as we ensure we invest and are the biggest fish in the championship pond.

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Quote: Prince Buster "Our fan base is nothing to shout about and I don't see how delivering garbage to paying customers will increase the numbers. It's also nice to have good facilities and a single stand improves things but other parts of the ground are dire. Again people are not going to pay money in good facilities to watch a losing team. We are a rugby League club and what happens on the pitch is what makes people support their club.'"


I highly doubt we will be regularly losing if we end up in the championship next season. If we manage to stay in SL then I expect some investment to come in but also a couple of transitional years if we are to progress on the field. There won’t be a magic wand to instantly grab hood finishes in the SL playoffs.

Even though our fan base is at its hardcore support now it is still higher than any championship club and will remain so imho.

If we go down we will have the biggest attendances, amongst the best facilities and I expect the club who can utilise non match day revenue to the most in the league.

If we go down I fully expect us to be winning the 1895 cup and the championship. I expect a season of winning will bring back a good number of fans and get us back over the 4000 mark and beyond.

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Does anyone really believe that should we get relegated the club can replicate the ‘98’ season with the entertainment, physicality, togetherness and the personalities that the Grand Final and League Leaders Shield team had?

The Championship is a very tough competition, we have players who’ve never experienced going away to Cumbria on a wet & cold Tuesday evening to face a team of raw boned locals who might not have the skills of St Helens but will scrap for everything and have no respect for the opposition.

It’ll be a very hard season and very difficult to finish in the top four let alone win it

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It is much easier to stay in SL if you are already there. To stand a chance from the Championship you will certainly need to win it and hope that one of the 12 SL clubs fail to impress. The decision on promotion will be taken out of our hands and it could be argued that an existing SL squad is better suited than one coming from the Championship, which will need to rebuild.

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